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Date:         Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:29:30 -0500
Reply-To:     "Dave C." <vinniethe85vanagon@MAC.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Dave C." <vinniethe85vanagon@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: junk mail response (lengthy but not loooooooong) so please
              read members
In-Reply-To:  <20010223194605.52317.qmail@web3208.mail.yahoo.com>
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on 2/23/2001 2:46 PM, Richard Ferguson at fergusrh@YAHOO.COM wrote:

> Hi Volks, > Wondering if anyone else is experiencing a higher frequency of junk > mail posts to our list...Just trying to pinpoint the source... > Regards, > Rick

{As Dave dons his Nomex fire suit, he starts typing and out spills the following:}

Curious you should bring up this point Rick, as I've suggested closing the list to members recently too. I sensed some flack for the suggestion as I was "adding to the junk" & I should just hit the delete key. I've been subscribed now for about 3 years I think. In the past 6 months or so, the junk has increased from none to quite a few almost every day. On 2/17, I started keeping track even. See below the signature line. (I know, very Type A personality!). Also consider this: (my math may not be totally accurate but...) assume an average of 5k per message X average of 2.5 messages/day (this will only get worse) X 365 days in the year = 4,562 k per year of crap in our archives and passing through our system(s). X 10 years that adds up 45,625 k of crap. It all adds up.

There are easy workarounds to a closed list. One can access the list remotely by opening a free e-mail account on yahoo, or one of the other many sources, and subscribe that way so they can post to the list from the road in an emergency. All that crap will only increase over time and our archives will contain all that stuff as well. At one time I read that all unsubscribed addresses were held and passed on to the list only after someone looked at them. I guess that wasn't or isn't happening. Tom, Ron? Will you comment? I reassert that we close the list. At least put it to a vote. (Do I even want to open the vote can of worms on this list ?! I remember the stickers!) Cheers, Dave C. Williamsburg, VA zzzzzzzzz__ |E[__] [__]|[_]\\ | _DC&SP | _ || * * * =-( )---------( )--= '85 GL Westy (His) '91 Cabriolet (Hers)

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Date:2/17/01 Sender: 8J4J5EeSY@LYCOS.COM Subject: The TRUTH About Online Success!

Date:2/17/01 Sender:mrbmms_00@WORKMAIL.COM Subject:"THE" Internet Opportunity Of The New Millennium!!

Date:2/17/01 Sender: bears@ANCESTRY.COM Subject: LAWFULLY pay NO IncomeTaxes Ever Again!!!!!!! 2453

Date: 2/18/01 Sender: p14912@AOL.COM Subject: good to see 20793

Date:2/21/01 Sender: TSilvers@MARKBUSSOL.COM Subject: Dear Friends & Future Millionaire: AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: ''Making over half million dollars

Date:2/21/01 Sender: grgur@SI.SE Subject: $10,000 INSTANT CREDIT jymbh

Date: 2/23/01 Sender: 91819295@YAHOO.COM Subject: Get cash back from the gov't!

Date: 2/24/01 Sender: fastp1cks@AVERNO.CYBERNET.IT Subject: STOCK ALERT! SPHC 58 cents FDA for (HIV/AIDS indication)

Date: 2/24/01 Sender: 68182113@EXCITE.COM Subject: Reach Miliions & Get the Results you Deserve !!

Date: 2/24/01 Sender: abysnhjc@FK.UM.EDU.MY Subject: Invest in Coffee, Oil, Grain, Beef, Sugar and more


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