Date:         Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:24:30 -0800
Reply-To:     Dana Morphew <kadm@PUGETSOUND.NET>
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From:         Dana Morphew <kadm@PUGETSOUND.NET>
Organization: Dana's Mobile Carpet Steam
Subject:      Re: Trouble Fitting I-4 Engine Into '90 Vanagon
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I knew the carriers were changed for '83 and now I know a little more
about how.  So, is it because the 4 spd. in the '82 diesel and the 5
spd. in the '83 diesel are different lengths and cause the need of the
different position of the rubber mounts along the engine carriers?  Are
the wasserboxer trannies equal in length to the 5 spd.?  Would what I
have fit if I had an aircooled gas trans.?  Is the moral to get the
engine carriers used in the '83 diesel when doing an I-4 install with
the wasserboxer trans.?  I'll have to look over the situation with the
front trans. mount and see if there is a chance of being able to move it
forward.  If not, rewelding the mounting cages on the carriers sounds
workable.  Thanks for the input, Mark.

-Dana-

Mark Drillock wrote:
>
> Dana, there are 2 different sets of carrier bars, depending on the model
> of tranny. You are using 1982 bars with a 1983+ type tranny. The 83+
> bars locate the engine 1.5" farther to the rear. The simple answer may
> be to modify the bars by cutting the mounts off and welding them back on
> in the correct position.
>
> There are other problems you may have in this conversion. If you are
> using the 82 diesel oil filler tube it will hit when the engine is
> mounted in the 83+ position. The 83+ oil filler is made of a curved
> metal tube and has no dipstick. The 82 is a straight plastic tube with
> the dipstick inside.
>
> Trying to move the tranny forward by 1.5" means the linkage rod will
> have to be shortened. I don't know if the tranny nose mount can be
> easily modified in any case.
>
> Mark
>
> Dana Morphew wrote:
> >
> > I now have the I-4 engine bolted to the ACW transmission in my '90
> > Vanagon.  I'm using the Vanagon diesel parts and mounting the engine at
> > a 50° angle.  The rightside engine carrier is attached fore and aft and
> > the bonded rubber mounting is attached to it and to the right engine
> > support.  The bonded rubber mounting is pressed hard against the rear of
> > the mounting cage welded to the engine carrier.  The left carrier, when
> > attached fore and aft and with the bonded rubber mounting positioned in
> > its cage, has the stud, meant to attach it to the left support, forward
> > of its  mounting hole in the support by 25 mm.  The
> > support/engine/tranny need to move forward 25 mm..  The carriers on both
> > sides fit perfectly in their mounting brackets, and it is the engine
> > that needs to move forward.  The amount of forward movement is'nt equal
> > for each side, but this can be accommodated I believe.
> >
> > Is the ACW trans. longer than the trans. that comes with the '82 diesel
> > Vanagon?  If so, has anyone modified the front trans. mount to gain the
> > distance needed to fit the I-4 engine to the carriers?  I would
> > appreciate advice, voices of experience, and help.
> >
> > -Dana-