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Date:         Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:45:14 -0700
Reply-To:     "Mladen, Zoran" <zmladen@SOLANT.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Mladen, Zoran" <zmladen@SOLANT.COM>
Subject:      Re: broken sockets
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I'll add my thoughts on Snap-on. I've worked on VWs for over 20 years since my father had a VW shop. We used primarily Snap-on, with a little Mac and Craftsman thrown in. The craftsman wrenches were great, but the sockets were weak. The Snap-on tools rarely failed. And when they did, our Snap-on guy replaced everything without question. The Snap-on guy out here in Boulder is the same way. I bring him a broken or worn out tool, he replaces them without question. Sears is the same way with Craftsman. So warranty is not an issue to me. But the Snap-on tools are made to higher specs and are more durable. It doesn't do me much good knowing that Sears will gladly replace a socket tomorrow that I need tonight.

I agree with Ed and Marc. Craftsman tools are very good and for most folks they are all they will need. But if you will use them a lot, you are probably better spending the extra and getting Snap-on.

Z

-----Original Message----- From: radish150 [mailto:radish150@EARTHLINK.NET] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 2:31 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: broken sockets

> Hey Mark - > I have six broken Craftsman sockets and 3 broken Craftsman Torx bits on the > top of my toolbox right now. The last time i broke a Snap-On socket was 3 > years ago. There is a marked difference in quality here, especially in > screwdriver tip strength, open-end wrench fit, and bit/socket strength. If > you depend on your tools to make a living, Craftsman won't cut it a lot of > the time. > Return policy is up to your local dealer - mine has taken back > *everything* i ever broke, even if it was abused or misused. > For the average homeowner who uses tools on the weekend, Craftsman is > just fine. Good bang for the buck. Just don't believe that they're the same > quality, fit, finish or strength. You get what you pay for. - Ed > How are you breaking all those sockets? Well, I guess I should not talk too much about sockets, most of mine are either Snap, Mac, or Proto. But my Craftsman wrenches are holding up well!

Your right about getting what we pay for though, it's just that I know a couple guy's who have many thousands of dollars in snap on tools and they hardly ever touch them, and when they do they don't know what to do with them. For what they do it's just a big status symbol. Reminds me of the Saturday night live episode where Belushi sticks about 12 rolls of toilet paper down his pants to make this towering buldge in his pants and then struts out into the bar.

and they cost too much, mark...


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