Date:         Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:15:54 -0800
Reply-To:     Steve <psteven1@QWEST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Steve <psteven1@QWEST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Help, GL wont start!
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OK,
   I guess we know who the smart guys are! Figure this out for me. NO voltage at
the Fuel Pump. Fuel pump works when power is applied to it off the vehicle. With
a good fuel pump relay (checked removed from van), relay energizes, +12vdc input
(pin 30), 0vdc output (pin 87).  According to the Bentley on pin 87, should have
one r/w wire, when in fact my GL has two! Where does the second r/w wire go? My
DCU relay is good also.
  Thanks to the Folks with real help,
   Steve

"Mladen, Zoran" wrote:

> Sounds like a fuel problem.  IN all likelihood, either the fuel pump or the
> relay.  You can try bridging the relay to ensure the pump is working.  When
> looking at the fuse box, pull out the pump relay.  Looking at the terminal
> plugs in the fuse box, you will notice some are large and one or two are
> small.  The two large ones that are on opposite sides of each other, and are
> perpendicular to each other, are the ones you want.  Bridge them two and the
> pump should run.  If it does not, bad pump.  This is unlikely that a pump
> dies this suddenly.  If the pump runs, try to start it.  If it starts, the
> relay is bad.
>
> Z
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve [mailto:psteven1@QWEST.NET]
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:45 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Help, GL wont start!
>
> Hello Folks,
>      Here my problem, while on a lunch break today, i drove out to a
> local restaurant to pick up some food, My 88 GL was running fine. Turned
> it off to go get my to-go order. Got back in the van and it wouldn't
> start! I thought I'd flooded it so I let it sit for a while and then
> tried cranking it, to no avail. A couple of things occurred to me, one
> my gas gauge read a bit under 1/4 tank, so I thought I had enough fuel.
> I could not hear the fuel pump, so I though everything was ok. I
> continued to crank on it till the battery went flat.
>      Thinking I ran the fuel tank dry and my gas gauge was lying to me,
> I called a friend, and got some gas. Hooked up the jumper cables, but
> the van still wont start.
>       If I ran it dry, what do I need to do to re pressurize the system
> again? Any other ideas on what the problem could be? And, Yes, Im
> getting spark to the plugs.
> I had no other warning signs and no other problems leading up to this,
> Im baffled. Thanks,
>      Steve in Vancouver, WA
>      88' GL
>      2- 77' MG Midgets!