Date:         Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:14:58 +1200
Reply-To:     Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
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From:         Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Stud vs bolt / Merits of Macho Bumpers
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>I then thought of what
>might have happened if all the kinetic energy from the collision had gone
>into a rigid bumper.  Would the damage have been so easily repaired or would
>a sturdy bumper have transferred the forces more deeply into the structural
>elements of the van requiring repairs which are seldom done correctly?  I
>have opted to run the stock bumpers and have my buddy, Chuck the bodyman,
>bump out the fenderbenders as they occur instead of him having to strap the
>van into his frame machine to try to make it whole again.


A valid worry. Even with the stock bumper, a big hit will crack the filler
& paint in seams from one end of the vehicle to the other. Water will then
enter and let the rust begin. This has happened to 2 of my cars. Sold the
diesel Skyline after rust stains began to appear in rear door and rear
apron seams; I had T-boned a nerdess who turned illegally in front of me.
The diesel Corolla sedan is still rusting; A-pillars are near to
perforation, and this is due to 3 rear-end shunts in as many months. Roads
here are not salted.


Andrew Grebneff
165 Evans St, Dunedin, New Zealand
fax 64 (3) 479-7527
<andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
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