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Date:         Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:34:03 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From:         David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Golf II instruments fit Vanagon cluster? White faces?
              Backlighting?
Comments: To: Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
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The tachometer isn't a direct fit, there is some plastic trimming that has to be done to the tachometer body and you also have to do some electrical stuff to make it all happen. It takes me about 2h to install a Golf tachometer when I have everything sitting infont of me. If you were to remove the pod cover you could instantly tell it was converted. Yes, the 7000 RPM is nice, but they will go up to center of your fuel gauge if you have a gumption to revv it that high! I estimate "F" is about 8000rpm :)

The speedometer may be a different story. I am pretty sure the revolutions per significant digit is different between the A2 and T3 (the 950 at the bottom of your speedometer - 950 turns of the input results in one turn of the Least Significant Digit) - I have taken 180km/h Golf faces and transplanted them on the front of the Vanagon gauge. This make the font correct for both the tach and the speedometer. Do you really need a 220km/h speedometer in your T3? I have had my T3 Westfalia up to 160km/h and that is pretty scary! =:o

David Marshall

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-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Andrew Grebneff Sent: March 20, 2001 5:27 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Golf II instruments fit Vanagon cluster? White faces? Backlighting?

I scored an instrument cluster from a Mk II Golf CL today, used import from Japan. It has a 220kmh (138mph) speedo and a 7000rpm tacho which incorporates fuel & temp gauges. Just about right for an SVX engined van, though 8000+ rpm would have been better.

I remember being told that the Golf II tacho can be made to fit the Vanagon pod and look like it is made to fit there.

BUT... can the speedo be done likewise? It is cable-driven, not electric, and can either be recalibrated to run from the Caravelle's drive cable (odometer will still be inaccurate however) or an inline gearbox can be fitted to the cable to correct it (best option). But will the speedo fit the cluster?

What about the wiring? Anybody done this? The Golf instrument lighting is the same crude indirect setup as the Vanagon. No backlit faces here.

Regarding Sean Birkner's idea of getting white faces done for listees' instruments, it should IN THEORY be easy to convert to backlighting. This would require fitting of (say Toyota) holders into the back of the instrument housings; cutting the holes should be easy as long as you know where and what shape exactly. Plug fittings in from behind and turn to secure. For this application the new white (or whatever color) faces should be uniformly translucent, to allow the light to shine through; tacho red (or green or whatever) zones should be translucent also. Lettering should be opaque, to show up at night. Bulb color can be owner's choice; could even, given enough room, install several different sets of light fittings with different colored bulbs, with a rotary or slide switch to select the different colors!

Like Sean, I think blue in particular would be really neat (the Nissan Presea has intense blue backlit instruments, and they look amazing).

Of course if there are shadow-producing obstructions within the instruments, the backlighting idea may be in trouble.

Thoughts?

Andrew Grebneff 165 Evans St, Dunedin, New Zealand fax 64 (3) 479-7527 <andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> VW van (something for every man), Toyota diesel & seashell nut Macintosh 7500/200/64, 6116/60/24, LCIII, LC, Classic, Plus Even though Mac Users may be only 10% of the market, always remember that we are the TOP 10%


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