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Date:         Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:40:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HERMANN DE BOER <hdeboer@BSSD.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         HERMANN DE BOER <hdeboer@BSSD.NET>
Subject:      Re: Why the Delete Key is not enough!! PLEASE READ
Comments: To: Richard Golen <rgolen@UMASSD.EDU>
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Hear,Hear! I could probably get fired over some of the spam that has been coming through lately. Therefore, PLEASE put a filter on the mail. I also subscribe to a second list (Appalachian Trail Thru-hiker Forum) and there is zero tolerance for spam or obscenity. I am no computer expert, but it can be done. I don't want to lose my job, and I don't want to quit the list.

Cheers, Hermann de Boer KC,MO

-----Original Message----- From: Richard Golen To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: 4/18/01 12:02 PM Subject: Why the Delete Key is not enough!! PLEASE READ

Hi Listees,

During the past few weeks the Vanagon list has been the recipient of tons of Spam. This morning I received an email which contained hard core pornographic images. I'm getting sick and tired of receiving this sort of crap from the list. Many of you have responded by saying: "if you don't like the spam, don't read it, delete it". In reality I do not find deleting an option for two reasons:

1. I find some of the subject lines offensive. Look I'm not a prude, and I can spout off "off-color" humor and remarks with the best of them. However I don't want this crap on a list I'm subscribed to. To me,spam is the equivalent of someone coming into my yard and urinating or defecating on my front lawn. I can turn a blind eye on it, but the fact is that someone has trespassed into my space.

2. This is the main point. Many of us are subscribed to this list through servers at our places of employment, schools we attend, etc. The fact of the matter is that there is no privacy in employer or educational institution email. An employer, university, etc., has access to the email regardless of when you down load it, whether you read it or not, or whether you delete it or not. In fact, depending on the archival system, a copy of that email may end up on archive which is accessable.

Quite frankly I don't appreciate smut showing up on my employer's email system...PERIOD! Nor do I want to change may email address to an ISP ( I've had for more than 15 years) just because this list (which of the 6 or 7 I'm on is the only one which does not filter outside spam) doesn't filter spam.

Thank you for reading this and considering these issues.

Ric


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