Date:         Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:16:15 -0700
Reply-To:     Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
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From:         Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
Organization: WetWesties <http://wetwesties.org>
Subject:      Spam and list closure
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I guess that I just don't get it...  I'm "unsubscribed" from the list
because I'm on the road.  Why not just "set nomail"? I break down.  I
attempt to post to the list from an i-net cafe.  I can't get the message
to the list because I'm not sending from my currently "unsubscribed"
address.  Right so far?

Why did I not plan a bit ahead and contact my ISP for the 'remote' email
access address.  I live in a town with 12k people and even *my* ISP has
a site for browser based email. All it requires is a bit of preplanning.
 Or use one of the web based mailbots... Excite, email.com, hotmail all
come immediately to mind.

There is absolutely NO reason to have an open list.  NONE.  If you want
to play you should be subscribed.  The only way for an open list to work
is to have it fully moderated.  Neither Tom nor I have the time nor
energy to do that.

Close the list.  If you are going on the road and need help accessing
it, contact me before you leave and I'll be happy to walk you through it.

BTW, one of the things that I'm noticing is that some of these
'advertisers' are actually reading the list posts.  And harvesting the
addresses. I get p-mail spam then ten minutes later, the same
'advertisement' shows up on the list.  Wonder where they got my pmail
address from...

Jim Arnott
List Admin
Spare Vanagon
Union, OR