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Date:         Sun, 6 May 2001 12:24:44 EST
Reply-To:     Andrew Payton <zenlunatic42@usa.net>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Andrew Payton <zenlunatic42@usa.net>
Subject:      [Re: I thought I said Synergy]
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I dunno man, we've got hybrid cars right now. I'd like to think there will be something we don't use right now since it's still 50years away. Some crazy synthetic fuel or maybe just pure electric. As of right now... my bets goin with soy though!

-Andrew

Joel Walker <jwalker17@earthlink.net> wrote: > > I disagree. In the year 2050, the major source of fuel will be > hydrogen. >

> nah. you're all wrong. it'll be alcohol. too easy to make ... can make > it from garbage. > the problems associated with it are fixable ...using stainless steel > pipes and such (even glass would work), and it's pumpable using the > equipment at the gas stations already ... hydrogen would take way too > much money and time to change over. >

> and remember ...we're talking about letting loose a highly flammable > explosive gas (hydrogen) on the public of this country ... the same > public who sits in front of televisions and watches "Survivor"? the > same public that has never learned out to drive automobiles safely? >

> besides, with alcohol, we'd get rid of a few more morons when they > tried to drink their auto fuel. :) >

> but the thing that i truly see happening is hybrid cars ... at this > moment, i can't see anything else that's feasible ... a true hybrid > will have a small alcohol engine, specifically designed to operate at > a narrow range of rpm to generate electrical power to run the electric > motors of the automobile. in other words, right back to the original > design of Ferdinand Porsche. and his version had four-wheel drive (the > electric motors were built into each wheel, like a large earth-mover). > all of this is possible right now ... just not fashionable. anyway, > the hybrid design can solve a lot of emission problems as well as > using less fuel to go the same distance ... figure 300 miles on about > 5 gallons of fuel. >

> them's my predictions and i'm sticking with 'em. > :) >

> unca Nostradamus :)

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