Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:45:19 -0700
Reply-To: steve@syncro.org
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From: Steve Schwenk <steve@syncro.org>
Subject: Re: more feed back on Chris..... (was avoid ranger brian)
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I have a different take. If you are like me and Chris
and Derek and others who sell stuff as part of our
hobbies, and not as our main livelihoods, and you run
across a guy who whines and complains and wants the
impossible, or who insists that you behave as though
you are a well funded wall mart, and wants ass kissing
on top of it, just slam the door and say no thanks, go
somewhere else!
We hobby guys may not deliver the best or fastest
service (although often we do), but we do deliver the
stuff the more established vendors cannot or will not,
stuff you would never get otherwise, unless you were
willing to put in the endless hours, etc. it takes, or
spend gobs of $$ you do not have. We do not need the
abuse and extra headaches, lord knows we sure don't do
this for the money. We are enthusiasts. If you don't
like dealing with enthusiasts and insist on so called
"legitimate" businesses, then leave us alone! Go
somewhere else. It's your loss, not ours.
steve
"Horace K. Sawyer" wrote:
>
> At 08:52 AM 5/8/01 -0700, Brian Cochran wrote:
>
> >Mr. Walters, I have a grip. I wonder about you spending so much time on
> >giving me info I don't want. I had a bad experience and I want others to
> >know about. I have that right. Courtesy should accompany list dealings,
> >since there are not any of the ebay rules of protection. I did not
> >receive courtesy. I didn't even receive all that I paid for. What do say
> >to that? I had numerous "talks" with chris, asking about where my order
> >was, when it was coming, etc. NUMEROUS. I'm tired. I don't feel this
> >much work should go into anything. And yes, I'm posting this on the list.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Brian Cochran
>
> Okay, to those clamoring for some stirring commentary, I will say something
> at the risk of another suspension. : )
> My personal thoughts on the Cochran-Turner thread?
>
> A victory for U.S. Const. Amend I ! That's what my distinguished
> colleague would say. Long live the First Amendment right insisted upon by
> the founding fathers. You can thank them for this list, too. Yeah right,
> you say? Does anyone have any idea of the magnitude of the power of
> freedom of speech?? Think about it for one minute -- one full minute of
> being forced to keep your mouth shut.
>
> But this thread is interesting to me because it presents an interesting
> case microstudy in popular attitudes.
> The thread seems to have taken on a sort of popularity contest with its
> goal of defeating the negativism by overpowering it with what my old
> Juvenile Judge would have said is "nicey-nice" talk.
> Alas, all the good comments in the world still cannot undo the wrong, if
> true. Like the sting of the arrow into the heart once released from the
> mighty bowstring, the pain of misdeeds or untruth does not soon fade away.
> Just some thoughts.
>
> It matters not who is right or wrong in this thread -- what matters is to
> put the community on notice. In the end, each must act on his or her own
> best interest. I make no judgments. Notice (warning or cause to
> investigate further) is derived clearly from free speech. Without it, we
> are all in peril.
>
> Suffice to say that this thread, though born of negativity, will produce a
> greater good. Why? ALL parties on the list will be more careful in their
> transactions.
>
> Until it happens again . . .
>
> But then history teaches us that man learns nothing from history. It will
> repeat. It is inevitable.
>
> horace
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