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Date:         Thu, 10 May 2001 03:22:52 -0700
Reply-To:     Zoltan <zol@foxinternet.net>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Zoltan <zol@foxinternet.net>
Subject:      TO CHRIS,
              New Purchase (hopefully the end of this nauseating thread)
Comments: To: JordanVw@aol.com
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

Get over it Chris, this is nothing. Some guys had no test of suffering in their life yet more than waiting a few weeks for a junk to arrive in the mail. What a joke! There is a difference in buying and selling. The exercise is not the same. I bet, after the guy gets his stuff, he will have it in his garage for another three month before he installs it. The easiest part of the circle is the buying. Write a check, put it in an envelope and walk out to the mail box. Done. And he thinks it is just as easy to equal it on your side. The circle has been only switched on to turn with that check. The real work of all involved has just begun. And that I don't need to tell. We all know what that is, only we would like to ignore, kind of "don't want to know about your troubles" thing. Who wants to hear about your single handed struggle with removing parts,cleaning them, finding boxes, making pretty packing, putting on the right address, worrying if it is worth anything to you but knowing that you are doing the right thing because these are rare and expensive items and the guys need it and you keep them happy and they will love you for it, than drive to the UPS depot in the middle of the night when the whole family is asleep already, snow or rainstorm, pay your bucks for shipping and hope that there is enough left for yourself to make it worthwhile, but knowing that you are making a difference and doing a service that only a few can and will for the love of the most practical vehicle on the Planet. And you are sure that you are making friends in the process. And along comes a guy whose grandest suffering in life was missing his money for a month and not getting the parts close to new condition. He obviously did not grow up in Bolivia roasting friendly unassuming dogs or dead mates, as Phaedra was describing. He does not have to keep old buses in his yard to make a few bucks to buy a used pair of shoes at the garage sale for the kids and still look like a guy who does well. Hey we most of us know what it takes to do what you do, only we never think about it the way it really is. In this instant society we got used to 'pay, get and go'. We don't think of the farmers making a few cents on an item that you buy for two bucks. We only see the finished item. We don't see or even know about how it is done and what it takes to get to me. As you noticed the Honorable List has jumped to your defense immediately even though they did not dispute the issue that was brought up. You could not have had better reference than those letters supporting your case. And those who did not write in and only were sitting in their comfortable chair and read while you were wiggling yourself under a badly jacked up van to remove a small item for a guy who is wandering what happened to you, why his stuff is not on his porch yet, is looking at this issue sympathetically in your favor and now understands just what it takes to do what you are doing as opposed to what a well oiled organization does. Yours maybe well oiled and well dirtied, but make sure, is well understood by us. And subconsciously well respected, admired because we would not do it for twice as much. Also one has to understand that the List is made up of people from "all walks of life", meaning some of us were roasting rats at one time and other some of us just lost two million on the Tech stock on the Market and can hardly make it on ten grand a month. For some the loss of a hundred bucks will kill a billion cells in his body for others it is just another loss in the process of the makings of money. All this what went on should make you stronger, better, wiser, happier, make your sight clearer, bring you closer to our chest. We did not follow your eye surgery closely. We are sorry that you had to go through such a thing and hope that you are much better now and will be back doing things for us. We are guys like you are. We understand. So the winter is over boys, get back to work now. Order. With respect;Zoltan ----- Original Message ----- From: JordanVw@aol.com To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: Re: New Purchase (hopefully the end of this nauseating thread)

In a message dated 5/9/01 11:31:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jhrodgers@charter.net writes:

Chris, I am sending you via surface mail another order. This is for

another grab handle on the passenger side door post. MO is enclosed in the envelope.

Have deleted all the mail about good guy/bad guy Chris. What a PITA, all that stuff

thanks, i appreciate it.. just doing this for a little while longer till i get rid of most of my stuff. after this experience, id soon just get rid of it all and be done with it. its not worth being permantntly branded like the way that guy did that to me over a $25 item because i forgot to put some damn sheetmetal screws in the box, and the delay from complications with my eye surgery. i couldnt even drive for 2 weeks. i feel like i gotta send a doctors note to the vw van list. i dont do this for a living, but it does take time. with the feedback i get, it seems as most people just want to complain. most people think that i run some kind of shop or business, or big vw junkyard or something. it aint like that.. they think and have nothing better to do with my time than cater to their vanagon parts needs. .. Im not Busdepot or Vanagain with shiny new parts, big websites and next day shipping. thats not me. there are others on the list who are also parting out vanagons, alot of people. yes, i have more vw van/bus related parts than the average person.. because i have a place to store it, and its accumilated over the years. you know, have space, accumilate stuff. and so i post it to the list , offering it to others who may need it. i try my best to get stuff out timely, but i dont have a UPS pickup service who'll come to my door everytime someone wants something. i gotta drive 45 mins to the UPS ditribution center. so i often get a few things together to make the trip worthwile. but i dont need all this. i dont want it to get to the point where i go to a vw function and feel ostracized (sp?) from other listmembers. all this sh*t in the past few days makes me sick, wondering why i dont just sell the 2 remaining vw's i own and get a damn HONDA.

sorry, john, the above wasnt directed at you, i am just venting.. chris


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