Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:57:27 -0500
Reply-To: John Rodgers <jhrodgers@CHARTER.NET>
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From: John Rodgers <jhrodgers@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: kaibab trip report + cooling issues
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Whups!! Missed the point, didn't I!!
John Rodgers
88 GL Driver
Karl Wolz wrote:
>
> I read the post to say that the debris was on the outside of the radiator,
> but pretty well impregnated into the "nooks and crannies".
>
> Karl Wolz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Rodgers" <jhrodgers@CHARTER.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 6:45 AM
> Subject: Re: kaibab trip report + cooling issues
>
> > If I had that kind of mud and debris in my cooling system, and knew I
> > would have the hot tempertures and a fair amount of mountain climbing, I
> > think I would change the water pump. The impellers can't be in the best
> > of shape.
> >
> > Good Luck\
> >
> > John Rodgers
> > 88 GL Driver
> >
> >
> > bret wrote:
> > >
> > > I took my two oldest children (6 and 9 yr) on a overnight trip yesterday
> > > from St. George, Utah to the Kaibab Plateau (North Rim of the Grand
> > > Canyon). This was to serve as a shakedown trip, of sorts, for my
> recently
> > > acquired 1982 diesel Westfalia. I was curious to see how it would deal
> > > with the full-on heat of the summer here in this climate. When we left
> > > St. George (elevation 2700 feet) it was over 100 deg F. As we began to
> > > climb the Hurricane Fault, about a 1000 foot elevation transition, it
> > > became apparent that I would need to watch the heat gauge. The LED
> began
> > > flashing. I was able to (mostly) keep the flashing off by turning the
> > > cabin heat on full bore. In this heat it really didn't seem to make
> much
> > > of a difference, comfort wise, anyway. We continued to have trouble the
> > > entire climb.
> > >
> > > With many stops we finally made it to Jacob's Lake on the
> > > Kaibab at an elevation of about 8000 feet. The air was sweetly cool at
> > > this elevation. Slow deliberate travel in the hot house diesel
> Westfalia
> > > made the arrival in the cool pine forest more of a treat than past trips
> I
> > > have made there in a shiny new air conditioned Honda at 80 mph. It felt
> > > like we had earned the destination! We stayed at a US Forest Service
> > > campground. It cooled to the 50s (deg F) that evening and was perfect
> > > sleeping temperature. The stars were bright and the evening meal
> > > delicious.
> > >
> > > We drove straight back home the next morning. Naturally I was
> interested
> > > in solving the cooling issue. This afternoon I looked around on the web
> > > and decided I should make sure my cooling system was purged of air. I
> > > warmed up the van and pulled off the grill. I thought while I was at
> it,
> > > I would rinse off the radiator. I took a nozzle to the radiator and
> found
> > > that not only bugs were rinsing out, but lots and lots of mud, sand and
> > > twigs. I rinsed for at least 1/2 hour before the water ran clear. I
> > > should mention here that I had found this kind of debris packed
> underneath
> > > the chassis earlier. It never occurred to me that it would also be in
> the
> > > radiator. My current theory is that the van was in a flash flood when
> it
> > > belonged to a previous owner who lived in Springdale, Utah (next to Zion
> > > National Park).
> > >
> > > I was able to purge a small amount of air from the system. With that
> and
> > > the removal of the mud, I am hoping the cooling system will perform
> better
> > > the next trip.
> > >
> > > -bret
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