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Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 14:41:31 -0400
Reply-To:     Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Subject:      Re: ATTEMPTED FRAUD BY LIST MEMBER ADAM PUZEREWSKI: READ CAREFULLY
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Tim has a strong inner critic that can come out. You should have seen some of his earlier posts about Bus Depot posts back when the list was getting started.

These were very funny, and had some of us stomping with amusement, but ultimately Ron reduced heavy commercial use of the list and Tim backed off trashing him. I think Ron could post 25% more, personally.

But, if you notice, Tim is always watching, and a few weeks ago trashed Flo for commercial postings that got a bit out of hand. He expressed what we were all thinking.

In any case, most likely Tim thought he had a real fraud case on his hands here and hit the SEND button a little too fast.

Problem is, Tim's posts are often insightful and carry unusually large amounts of information. So as a result, everybody reads them and I am sure Adam you are now quite famous. Nobody will forget your name now, for better or for worse. How does it feel?

We are watching. We can see the outcome as it unfolds.

Relax about this. Have a beer, shake your heads, and disengage from it.

I make mistakes too. I hit the send button on a post that said the Michelin tires for Vanagon were not a good choice. But I hadn't researched that enough and everybody pointed out my mistake afterwards.

The list is cruel.

At 02:19 PM 5/31/01 -0400, you wrote: >To the list administrator. > >This fellow had not pmailed, called or anything.......when you get a payment >from paypal it shows in your inbox as coming from the person that sent it. >I sent this ma$250US, have a receipt, and now he is selling the stuff to >someone else accusing me of everything, and does not have the decency to >pmail or call me. He has my address which was private and not for the world >to know, and all he has to do is call directory assistance for the phone >number. > >I only had one email address for him and it is the one I used. If he >s=wished me to use another, I did not have it. > >How dare this man accuse me of fraud, and banishment, police, etc. I just >want my stuff and an apology. If anyone should be banished it is him for >assuming. As an old odd couple episode showed.....when you assume you make >an ass out of up and me. > >Adam Puzerewski > >81 westy >74 beetle >73 Transporter (new!!!!!!!) > >Vanagon Partsmobiles >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tim Smith" <smithtj@NBNET.NB.CA> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:45 PM >Subject: [VANAGON] ATTEMPTED FRAUD BY LIST MEMBER ADAM PUZEREWSKI: READ >CAREFULLY > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I've attached a message from the guy who was so urgently looking > > for a BA-6 heater yesterday. He replied back about 5 minutes after > > I posted I had one for sale. In a major rush to get it etc. I also > > had two other enquiries from longtime list members who I know fine. > > > > Note that the message purports to be a PayPal payment confirmation, > > buy hey, funny it comes >From: Puzerewski@msn.com. So I went to accept > > the payment and lo and behold, nothing there. Why..... well because > > when I told Adam to send the money I gave him my new email address, but > > PayPal uses my old one. No way would it have accepted any payment, the > > account simply doesn't exist. Strike two. You didn't really think I'd > > ship without accepting the PayPal transaction, or at least checking it > > did you?! > > > > I've reported this to PayPal security, Adam's address is right below. > > If someone would like to call the local police in Mt. Pleasant SC and > > tell them I'm wanting to lay a charge of attempted fraud, with all > > documentation available, please let me know and let me know how. > > Failing that I will be calling them myself. > > If anyone has done deals with him I hope it went better than my dealing. > > If anyone in/nearby Mt Pleasant SC knows this guy give him one for me > > (don't hurt his bus!) I'm pretty disgusted by this. Gary, the heaters are > > yours, we'll sort out payment later. Finally, get this SOB off the vanagon > > list forever!! Tim Smith > > > > Adam Puzereweski > > 2052 Prospect Hill Dr. > > Mt. Pleasant, SC, 29464 > > > > > > > > and here's Adam's copy of the usual paypal confirmation message........ > > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 04:40:40 -0700 > > >From: Puzerewski@msn.com > > >To: smithtj@NBNET.NB.CA > > >Reply-To: Puzerewski@msn.com > > >Subject: BA-6 payment > > > > > >You've got cash! > > > > > >Adam Puzerewski just sent you money with PayPal. > > > > > >Amount: $250.00 > > >Subject: BA-6 payment > > >Note: Please ship within the next few weeks. Include everything you can >no > > matter how obscure! > > > > > > > > >Simply click http://www.paypal.com/links/uni and complete the > > >one-page registration form to claim your money. For a limited > > >time, if you sign up and complete the bonus requirements, you will > > >receive a $5 New Account Bonus (U.S. members only). > > > > > >You may withdraw your money at any time by requesting a check > > >or making a direct deposit to your bank account. You can also > > >send the money to your friends. > > > > > >PayPal lets users send money to anyone with an email address. Use > > >PayPal.com to settle restaurant tabs with colleagues, pay > > >friends for movie tickets, or buy a baseball card at an online > > >auction. You can also send personalized money requests to your > > >friends for a group event or party. > > > > > >For more information about PayPal, check out > > >http://www.paypal.com/. > > > > > >Welcome to PayPal! > > > > > > > > >Note: If you already have a PayPal account, be sure to log in > > >at http://www.paypal.com/ and add this email address in the > > >Profile subtab under My Account to collect your money. > > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------- > > > > > >"Best of the Web" > > >- Forbes > > > > > >"Using the service is actually safer than a check or money order." > > >- Wall Street Journal > > > > > >"The beauty is that you can send money -- real money, not one of > > >those gimmicky Internet currencies -- to anyone with an email address." > > >- New York Times > > > > > >"PayPal can play a major role in your life. You can use it to pay > > >for stuff at auction sites, settle dinner debts with friends or nudge > > >your cousin to repay that $50 he borrowed at the family reunion." > > >- Time > > > > > >"This is truly one of the easiest services to use. Setting up an > > >e-mail account at Yahoo! takes longer!" > > >- Internet.com > > > > > >********************************************************************* > > > PAYPAL SECURITY REMINDERS > > > > > > Protect Your Password > > > > > >PayPal and its representatives will NEVER ask you to reveal your > > >password. There are NO EXCEPTIONS to this policy. If anyone asks for > > >your password by phone or by email, or on any website other than > > >PayPal.com, refuse and immediately report this to service@paypal.com. > > > > > > Email Links and Logging In > > > > > >If you are logging in to your PayPal account after clicking a link > > >in an email or clicking on a logo, make sure the URL appearing in > > >your browser window begins with https://www.paypal.com. > > > > > >********************************************************************* > > > > > > > > >

_______________________________________________ Derek Drew New York, NY CEO & Co-Founder http://www.ConsumerSearch.com/ =========================== "Best Expert Review Site" for product reviews on the Internet Jan. 2001, PC World Magazine ========================== 80 South Street, 2nd Floor New York, NY 10038 derekdrew@rcn.com 212-580-6486

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