Date:         Thu, 31 May 2001 12:57:49 -0700
Reply-To:     Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: ATTEMPTED FRAUD BY LIST MEMBER ADAM PUZEREWSKI: READ CAREFULLY
Comments: To: Tim Smith <smithtj@NBNET.NB.CA>

Tim,

This is why I no longer use PayPal.  Too many hoops to jump through, and you
can't expect the other guy to get it right, even if YOU know how it works,
which you apparently do not.

I would also have severe reservations about doing any business with you,
considering the way you flew off the handle without giving any thought to
addressing the situation in a calm and reasonable manner.

Done,

Karl Wolz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Smith" <smithtj@NBNET.NB.CA>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: ATTEMPTED FRAUD BY LIST MEMBER ADAM PUZEREWSKI: READ CAREFULLY


> At 10:59 AM 5/31/01 -0700, Steve Schwenk wrote:
> >Tim, you may be mistaken.  Paypal does send
> >confirmation e-mails using the payees e-mail address,
> >not paypals.  Second, if you did give him a new e-mail
> >address under which you do not have an account, the
> >money will sit there under the NEW email until you
> >claim it.  I had this happen to me.
> >
> >Go to paypal and add your new e-mail to your account.
> >Then money should appear.
> >
> >This same thing happened to me and ZI thought I was
> >getting ripped off, too.  But the money was there under
> >the non-account e-mail.  If you follow the link on the
> >confirming e-mail, you will likely find it, but they
> >will ask you to open an account to get it since the
> >e-mail is not the one you are registered under.
> >
> >I sold Adam springs and there was no problem.
> >Steve
> >
> >p.s. blame paypal!
>
>
> If this is true, my profound apologies to Adam.
> I've been busting my hump to get this packaged
> and off today, and definately don't like the way
> things look.  Adam should have received a message
> that the email account wasn't active, and queried me.
> I've had the same problem, and I couldn't even finish
> the PayPal 'send money' page.
>
> I don't have a copy of any legit PayPal confirmation, but
> all my stuff has been confirmed via "service@paypal.com"
> buying or selling.  I'll go back into PayPal and add
> the account as you suggest. My old address is still active,
> I get daily mail via it, so I know it's forwarding fine,
> and if the payment went to my new address, where's PayPals
> direct-to-me confirmation, despite not having an account?
>
> I'm touchy on this, a friend shipped a mint vintage Judson
> supercharger for a bug into US, and got stiffed badly. Once
> over the border it was gone.
>
> Yes, I'm quite willing to blame PayPal, and would prefer to!
> Thanks Steve, more to come, Tim
>