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Date:   Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:56:25 -0700
Reply-To:   Charles McGehee <chasm@ELLTEL.NET>
Sender:   Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:   Charles McGehee <chasm@ELLTEL.NET>
Subject:   Re: Re.Spillage when filling the gas
Comments:   To: Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@IPA.NET>
In-Reply-To:   <00b401c0f4fe$21bd52a0$2f9080d1@hppav>
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Max,

What's a Wilfy kit and where do you get it?

Charles '85 Westy

At 01:16 PM 6/14/01 -0500, Max Wellhouse wrote: >My spillage history is as follows: >Bought 90GL in 4/97 No fill up problems. About last summer, I started >with the post-fillup smell. Replaced crossover pipe, grommets, hoses a la >Wilfy kit. Smell went away, but a couple tanks of gas later the filler pipe >belching started. My van has the later ball in the bottom of the filler >neck, so my next course of action will be to replace the valves in the top >of the expansion tanks under the front fender wells. Something in these >systems isn't breathing properly and is not allowing the escaping air(that's >being replaced by the pumped in fuel) to reach the atmosphere, right? Maybe >it could be a blockage or constriction in the ball valve assembly at the >bottom of the filler neck piece. All I can say, is that the 2WD models >didn't do it when they were new, so there has to be something that has >failed somewhere. > >As far as the Syncros, I'll have to study the Bentley photo on that to see >hat might be causing the problem. It seems to me that the air in the gas >tank has to escape somehow in order for the tank to fill with any fluid. >Try butting the male end of a garden hose up flush to an empty 2 liter >Sprite bottle and trying to fill it with various water pressures. You can >trickle water in there, but not full flow. Poke a half inch hole in the >bottle, and watch the difference in how fast the water goes in now. Got to >be a parallel in there somewhere. yeah, Bill Nye, Science Guy wannabe!! > >Dimwitted Moose and Flying Squirrel >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Baker" <DBAKER5@KC.RR.COM> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:09 AM >Subject: Re: Re.Spillage when filling the gas > > > > On one and only one occasion, I was able to get a full tank of gas without > > spillage, using the automatic shut off feature of the pump. It was at a >gas > > station I do not normally frequent. This leads me to believe your >assertion > > that the trip sensors on conventional pumps don't like the internal >geometry > > of the Vanagon fill spout for some reason. > > > > Dave in KC > > 85 Westy > > http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mark Rokus <marokus@VOYAGER.NET> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 1:01 AM > > Subject: Re: Re.Spillage when filling the gas > > > > > > > I do. In fact it happened to me last night. (happens on both of my > > Syncros) > > > Be aware that setting the nozzle on the first notch and leaving to wash > > the > > > windows will almost always have you buying more gas than will fit, as it > > > ends up on the ground. I suspect that the trip sensor is vaccuum driven > > by > > > the passing fuel and at low flow rates, it just isn't adjusted to trip > > > properly. It has happened so much to me that I quit complaining to the > > > stations about the adjustment, I just expect it to happen. > > >


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