Date:         Sun, 10 Jun 2001 04:15:16 -0500
Reply-To:     Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@IPA.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@IPA.NET>
Subject:      Re: '90 Vanagon: Hose leaking antifreeze
Comments: To: Mark Dorm <mark_hb@HOTMAIL.COM>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

Even the higher quality epxies won't handle 200 degrees for long periods of time.  Get specifics from the manufacturer of the resin as most packages don't have these numbers on them.  I would think that JB weld would almost have to work since folks glue busted crankcase pieces back together with it with seemingly good results, although I've never tried it.  And if it's tolerating the sealing suface pit repairs on heads, well, lwhat can I say??

DM&FS
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Dorm 
  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM 
  Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 3:56 PM
  Subject: Re: '90 Vanagon: Hose leaking antifreeze


  I'm trying to understand what you're saying. Did you cut the hose and then stick the ink pen piece (is this from a bic disposable?) into each new end of hose and then tighten two clamps over each new end, so that now water flows through the ink pen? 

  Also, for a leak like this would either plumbers epoxy or marine epoxy work? 



  >From: KI 
  >Reply-To: KI 
  >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM 
  >Subject: Re: '90 Vanagon: Hose leaking antifreeze 
  >Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:04:13 -0700 
  > 
  >sounds like the same hose that burned right through on my vanagon on my 
  >trip to death valley a couple of months ago. i had just come over monitor 
  >pass and all of a sudden my engine started heating up. it had been laying 
  >on top of my muffler. funny, the first 
  >thing i tried was duck tape too, didnt' work tho'. i did end up taking 
  >the mouth piece of my camel back and plugging the too ends of teh hose 
  >into it. filled the car up with coolant and made it to the next town and 
  >it blew off, spewing all my coolant out again. luckily i made it to a 

  >littel store and bought some hose clamps and cut a 2 inch piece of an ink 
  >pen and jammed the two ends into it and clampled them down. made it to 
  >death valley and then to taos nm and then all the way back to san 
  >fran. i still haven't fixed it yet as i'm waiting on the tiico engine and 
  >don't want to spend any more money on the current one. jsut did a trip to 
  >umpqua nat forest in oregon and it held up fine. i would def. bleed the 
  >cooling system. 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >On Sat, 26 May 2001, Don Oldenburg wrote: 
  > 
  > > Hi Everyone-- 
  > > 
  > > My '90 Vanagon blasted out a load of antifreeze the other day soon as I 
  > > parked it after driving it a while. I checked around the engine compartment 
  > > this morning and followed the hosing from the reserve tank until I found the 
  > > leak. 
  > > Looking at the engine compartment from the back and on top: Hosing from 
  > > the reserve tank sort follows around the top inside of the comparment 
  > > opening; on the left side, there's a T-junction with a black rubber hose, 
  > > about 1/2 inch round and maybe 14 inches long to where it gets larger in 
  > > diameter (maybe 3/4 or an inch) for about four inches to where it connects to 
  > > the left-side cylinder head on top. 
  > > Right before that rubber hose fits onto the metal engine connection, 
  > > there's a break where the antifreeze leaks when pressured. Got the part #: 
  > > 025-121-058-M (and maybe the same number ending in C instead of M might 
  > > work)... 
  > > I tried searching the archive but for some reason can't get in at all, 
  > > so.... 
  > > 
  > > My Question: The hose looks easy enough to remove (clamp on each end). 
  > > I'm thinking I could take it off, dry it good, and do some heavy duty taping 
  > > over that rupture, and put it back on--so I could at least drive it for a few 
  > > days until I get the replacement hose special ordered. Is that adviseable or 
  > > not? 
  > > 
  > > Second Question: If I take that hose off, do I run the risk of getting 
  > > air in the system (and if so, what's the trick to doing this then and not 
  > > getting air in then system?), or will it just pull more antifreeze off the 
  > > reserve once I hook it back up again and start it? 
  > > 
  > > It looks like a simple fix--but I've done simple fixes before that ended 
  > > up causing bigger headaches. Any advise would be appreciated. 
  > > 
  > > Many thanks, 
  > > 
  > > Don Oldenburg 
  > > McLean, Va. 
  > > elevenhalf@aol.com 
  > > 


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