Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:39:27 -0700
Reply-To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: censorship
Only if it's got nipples!
Karl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Schwenk" <steve@SYNCRO.ORG>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: censorship
> The U.S. Supreme Court has long held that pornography
> is not entitled to full 1st amendment protection and
> thus can be subject to censorship by the government
> within limits. Private parties can censor anything
> they want to, including on this list. \ Besides, Tom
> is a great moderator and his edicts deserve respect
> even if you disagree, as Bill notes.
>
> Still, does this mean my syncro cannot go braless
> anymore!?
>
> Bill Kasper wrote:
> >
> > on 6/19/01 8:44 AM, Bill N at freeholder@STARBAND.NET wrote:
> > >
> > > Censorship always starts because some well-meaning person thinks they
know
> > > what is best for the group. It happens because some person or group
feels
> > > morally justified in imposing their view of how things should be on
everyone.
> > > The people who do this think they are right, but they are not. I know
you
> > > mean well, but your attitude is more dangerous to our freedoms than
any
> > > outside enemy.
> > >
> >
> > i've seen this discussion of "freedom of speech" on many moderated
lists.
> > we must remember, this list is moderated by tom, and there are certain
> > rights of ownership that go with this moderation. hell, he has the
servers
> > and the archives, right? so tom can define porn any way he wants, and
> > impose his will upon us with nary a second thought. i think folk who
see it
> > as a free speech issue are driving down the wrong path (with a worn afm,
> > rvc).
> >
> > i for one don't care one way or another about porn being posted here.
but
> > if tom makes the decision that it should not be, i accept that
> > decision...truthfully, it's his to make, regardless of whether i accept
it
> > or not. i am so thankful to his hosting of this list, and his
moderation of
> > it, i cannot express how much so.
> >
> > ultimately, if i don't like tom's methods of moderation, i can go
away...or
> > give tom enough grief so that *he* goes away. anyone else want the
headache
> > and cost of hosting the vanagon list?
> >
> > speak up, i can't hear you...
> >
> > bill
> > '87 syncro westfalia
> > http://www.scruznet.com/~kasper/pics/westy/
>
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