Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:12:20 -0500
Reply-To: Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@IPA.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@IPA.NET>
Subject: Re: censorship
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Dana Carvey's Church Lady, infamous host of SNL's Church Chat, would aprove
of this move......weeell isn't that SPECIAL!!
DM&FS
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <jhrodgers@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: censorship
> Bill, I go with Tom on this one. In this case I think it is simply a
> matter of the Vanagon List being the wrong venue for either photo or
> links to other sites that display explicit sex, period. It has no place
> here.
>
> AS list administrator, Tom has the absolute right to manage this as he
> sees fit, and in this case I certainly go with him. At the least, his
> actions serve to protect the list, the server, and Gerry. So I'll not
> complain. If I want to pollute my brain with lurids there are plenty of
> places besides the Vanagon List.
>
> YEA TOM!!!
>
> John Rodgers
> 88 GL Driver
>
> Bill Kasper wrote:
> >
> > on 6/19/01 8:44 AM, Bill N at freeholder@STARBAND.NET wrote:
> > >
> > > Censorship always starts because some well-meaning person thinks they
know
> > > what is best for the group. It happens because some person or group
feels
> > > morally justified in imposing their view of how things should be on
everyone.
> > > The people who do this think they are right, but they are not. I know
you
> > > mean well, but your attitude is more dangerous to our freedoms than
any
> > > outside enemy.
> > >
> >
> > i've seen this discussion of "freedom of speech" on many moderated
lists.
> > we must remember, this list is moderated by tom, and there are certain
> > rights of ownership that go with this moderation. hell, he has the
servers
> > and the archives, right? so tom can define porn any way he wants, and
> > impose his will upon us with nary a second thought. i think folk who
see it
> > as a free speech issue are driving down the wrong path (with a worn afm,
> > rvc).
> >
> > i for one don't care one way or another about porn being posted here.
but
> > if tom makes the decision that it should not be, i accept that
> > decision...truthfully, it's his to make, regardless of whether i accept
it
> > or not. i am so thankful to his hosting of this list, and his
moderation of
> > it, i cannot express how much so.
> >
> > ultimately, if i don't like tom's methods of moderation, i can go
away...or
> > give tom enough grief so that *he* goes away. anyone else want the
headache
> > and cost of hosting the vanagon list?
> >
> > speak up, i can't hear you...
> >
> > bill
> > '87 syncro westfalia
> > http://www.scruznet.com/~kasper/pics/westy/
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