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Date:         Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:58:00 -0500
Reply-To:     John Rodgers <jhrodgers@CHARTER.NET>
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From:         John Rodgers <jhrodgers@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tough driving(thin air)
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In the aviation world engine power is usually expressed based on standard sea-level atmospheric pressure (29.92 inches) and a standard day ( as I recall that is is 69 degrees F - memory may be failing me here).

Two types of supercharges exist for the aircraft world. They are designed to address air density for combustion related to altitude and temperature.

One is a simple turbocharger that allows sea-level pressure to be maintained to higher flight altitudes. They are usually gated to avoid an over-boost on take-off. At some altitude the turbo looses it abilities because the air has become so thin that even it cannot compress the thin air sufficiently to provide a combustible mixture so there is power loss. But at that altitude there is very little resistance to the airframe so speed increases dramatically ---to a point.

The second type is a two-stage blower. With these, a pilot had to be very careful not to boost the manifold pressure to the point of blowing up a cylinder. Typically these engines would pull more than sea-level pressure on take-off. Power was important and the engines were designed to use much higher manifold pressures on take-off and climb-out. The superchargers made it possible to pull 60 inches of pressure or maybe more, and that is WAY above the best sea-level pressure even on a very cold day. That power was needed to get large heavy machines off the ground.

On the vanagon perhaps some type of small gated turbocharger might be available. I have seen somewhere a picture of a turbo'd WBX, but I don't remember where. I have also seen turbo's available that a good automotive craftsman could adapt.

If a gated turbo could be installed to keep the atmospheric pressure at sea-level where-ever you are ... be it at the beach or Leadville, CO on a hot day, you would really have something.

John Rodgers 88 GL Driver

Bob Nugent wrote: > > Speaking of Santa Fe, that's where I live. I've always referred to the > altitude here as a "reverse turbo". I suspect that if I could get the engine > power clear up to zero, (sea-level performance, that is) I'd be able to live > with the 2.1 WBX . I think 4 or 5 lbs. of boost would probably accomplish > that. Anybody know of a small supercharger system that would work in that > range -- and integrate with the fuel injection system? I can't see how that > would put more strain on the engine than running it at sea level without a > blower. Any ideas? > > Bob


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