Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:16:21 -0700
Reply-To: gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
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From: gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: thank you joel, as it takes all types
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An engineer dies and reports to the pearly gates. St.
Peter checks his dossier and says, "Ah, you're an
engineer. You're in the wrong
place."
So the engineer reports to the gates of hell and is
let in. Pretty soon, the engineer gets dissatisfied
with the level of comfort in hell, and starts
designing and building improvements. After a while,
they've got air-conditioning and flush toilets and
escalators, and the engineer is a pretty
popular guy.
One day God calls Satan up on the telephone and says
with a sneer, "So, how's it going down there in hell?"
Satan replies, "Hey, things are going great. We've
got air-conditioning, flush toilets, and escalators,
and there's no telling what this engineer is
going to come up with next."
God replies, "What? You've got an engineer? That's a
mistake. He should never have gotten down there; send
him up here. All we have are
architects. Everything looks pretty, but nothing
works."
Satan says, "No way. I like having an engineer on the
staff and I'm keeping him."
God says, "Send him back up here or I'll sue."
Satan laughs uproariously and answers, "Yeah, right.
And just where are YOU going to get a lawyer?"
---
> > Does anyone know where the origin of nomenclature
> for
> > vw came from? Does the type 1-4 refer to the
> engine?
> > Is there a website that explains this?
>
> don't know if there's a web site, but it's basically
> this ..
>
> the beetle was Type 1. that's the first car of any
> kind that vw made.
> the convertibles and karmann ghia were also
> considered Type 1, cause
> they were all based on the same chassis design, and
> had basically the
> same engine. because of the engine's association so
> closely with the
> chassis, the engine was also called a Type 1 engine.
>
> along in about 1950 or so, vw decides to make the
> bus. well, it's the
> 2nd car that they are making, so it gets the name
> Type 2. still has
> that company name. now, note that there was not and,
> as far as i know,
> there never has been a Type 2 ENGINE. all buses of
> any kind, all the
> way up to the Eurovan, have used engines out of
> other car lines (the
> Eurovan first used an Audi 5-cylinder, now a passat
> V6).
>
> then along in 1966 or so, vw decides to make a third
> sort of car ...
> the Squareback, and it's variant, the Fastback. yup.
> they called it
> Type 3. now, it DID have its own engine, which was
> NOT used in
> anything else. and yes, it's a Type 3 engine.
>
> at this point, it's worthwhile to note that the old
> VIN or serial
> numbers had the Type number as the first digit of
> the serial number,
> and the model year as the third digit. so a 1963
> beetle was a 113....
> and a 1963 bus was a 223.... can't recall what the
> 2nd digit was.
> anyway, this was all to change in 1981 when the feds
> mandated how the
> VIN would look. :( note also that a 1963 bus and a
> 1973 bus would have
> the same numbers ... nope. in 68, they changed the
> format slightly ...
> made it longer. but a 1968 and a 1978 DO have the
> same 228.... in the
> beginning. confusing, ain't it? :)
>
> ok, then in 1969, vw decides that the Type 3 isn't
> quite large enough
> for families (the Squareback was only a 2-door
> wagon). so they build
> the Type 4 ... it's bigger. and uglier. looked like
> a fat Squareback
> with four headlights. and a new bigger engine. yup.
> the Type 4 engine.
>
> now comes the funny part ... vw and porsche were
> collaborating on the
> Porsche (VW) 914 (sold in germany as a vw/porsche
> 914). guess which
> engine they stuck in it ... yup. the Type 4. and in
> 1972, they stuck
> the same engine into the buses. it was/is still
> called the Type 4
> engine, though. that engine stayed in the buses til
> middle of the 1983
> model year, when the buses went to watercooled
> engines.
>
> Type 5? sure. didn't sell well at all in germany, so
> they canceled it
> and it never made it over here, as far as i know.
>
> don't know what a Type 6 was, but a Type 7 was a
> Rabbit. started in
> 1976.
>
> since then, i don't know what they call the Jetta
> and Passat and
> Quantum and all that, but the Euovan is still a Type
> 2. :)
>
>
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