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Date:         Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:41:15 -0400
Reply-To:     Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Subject:      Re: [Syncro] Roll Over Angle?
Comments: To: "Forhan, Thomas" <thomas.forhan@mail.house.gov>
Comments: cc: syncro@onelist.com
In-Reply-To:  <6BAA4FF604A4D2119AD10008C7A4EFBB090FAD6F@hrm06.house.gov>
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<html> Needless to say, I am highly desirous to know the answer (about the rollover angle for Syncro Westfalia). <br> <br> I believe the only valid test is with a Westy with a full water tank and driver in the drivers seat and actually tip it over, securing it by straps from above so the van doesn't hit the ground. Possibly somebody has done this test in Europe, as I am fairly certain nobody has done it in the Continental US. <br> <br> Here is a very funny link Joel Walker sent me yesterday that shows how *not* to do the test. <br> <br> &nbsp;<a href="http://www.bogginfreaks.com/gallery/albums/cjashowandshine/acr.mpg" eudora="autourl">http://www.bogginfreaks.com/gallery/albums/cjashowandshine/acr.mpg</a><br> <br> As I have stated previously, I stop driving when my van gets to 20 degrees of angle and then I try to figure out what to do. It would be of great benefit to me to know that I could go to, say, 35 degrees of angle.<br> <br> Someone once sent me a theoretical argument that the vanagon was a kleenex box on its side and that it would be safe to assume it will tip over at the same angle that a kleenex box will tip over. The Kleenex box dimensions are a bit worse than a Vanagon's. According to this theory, we should be safe to about 45 degrees or so. Still, at only 20 degrees I become extremely disconcerted. <br> <br> At 10:14 AM 8/8/01 -0400, you wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote type=cite cite><font size=2>Anyone have an idea when a Syncro Westie falls on its side? <br> </font><br> <font size=2>We've had ours over something like 25 degrees, and it stayed put, while Derek watched from behind. (Maybe it was the mud suction that was holding us in place.)<br> </font><br> <font size=2>Any other data points or experiences in this matter?</font> <br> <br> <font size=2>Tom F.</font> <br> <br> <tt>If you would like to modify your subscription settings (including unsubscribing), visit:<br> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro</a><br> Please remember that rude or offensive language is not allowed on the Syncro list. Please try your best to resolve differences privately and keep them off the list.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> </tt><br> <br> <tt>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt> </blockquote><br> <div>________________________________________________________</div> <div>Derek Drew&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; New York, NY &amp; Washington, DC</div> <div>derekdrew@rcn.com<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 212-580-6486</div> <div>Email me for viscous couplings</div> <div>'90 Syncro Westfalia... </div> <div>...seen off-road at </div> <div><a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/Syncro_Madness_Area.htm" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/Syncro_Madness_Area.htm</a></div> <div>Note: most valuable Vanagon sites on the planet (for owners) are:</div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon</a></div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="ftp://gerry.vanagon.com/pub/" EUDORA=AUTOURL>ftp://gerry.vanagon.com/pub/</a></div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro</a> </div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.vanagon.com/" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://www.vanagon.com</a> </div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.syncro.org/" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://www.syncro.org</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; </div> <div>My refrigerator article: </div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/Refrigerator/Reefer_Madness.htm" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/Refrigerator/Reefer_Madness.htm</a></div> <div>My article that shows how to deal with insurance companies: </div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="ftp://gerry.vanagon.com/pub/auto-insurance-madness.html" EUDORA=AUTOURL>ftp://gerry.vanagon.com/pub/auto-insurance-madness.html</a> </div> <div>To view Wolfgang's incredibly informative wheel article</div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/fitbigtiresonvanagon.htm" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/fitbigtiresonvanagon.htm</a> </div> <div>To view Tim Smith's incredibly useful gearing calculator</div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/syncrotireandgearratios.xls" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/syncrotireandgearratios.xls</a> </div> <div>To view some 16&quot; Trailing Arms that enable much larger tires see</div> <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncro-org/files/Wheels,%20Tires%20%26%20Gearing/Wheel%20%26%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncro-org/files/Wheels%2C%20Tires%20%26%20Gearing/Wheel%20%26%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg</a></div> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </html>


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