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Date:         Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:59:55 -0000
Reply-To:     John Pronk <john_pronk@STRATOS.CO.NZ>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         John Pronk <john_pronk@STRATOS.CO.NZ>
Organization: Stratos New Zealand Ltd
Subject:      Re: Will (Audi) Porsche transaxle fit in Vanagon?
Comments: To: Dan Snow <dieselvanagon@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Sorry Dan, the ring and oinion cannot be flipped over on the Audi boxes due to the gearbox housing design. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Snow" <dieselvanagon@HOTMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 23:22 Subject: Re: Will (Audi) Porsche transaxle fit in Vanagon?

> In my own daydreams I build a Beck Spyder, which is a replica of the Porsche > 550 Spyder. The 550 is mid-engined, rather than rear-engined like the donor > beetle. A lot of builders of these cars take a VW or Porsche tranny and > flip the ring and pinion so that the transmission can be turned around and > the engine ends up in the middle, where Ferdinand Porsche intended it to be > (don't flame me--the first two porsches were mid-engined, but it was too > expensive to continue becasue it required too much modification of the > kubelwagen and beetle components). This flipped ring and pinion is, to my > knowledge, the only substantive difference between the Porsche 914 tranny > and the 911 tranny. > > Anyhoo... I wonder if someone out there with Audi experience could tell us > whether this is possible with the Audi transmisions. Audi drivelines have > the opposite problem--they are laid out perfectly for a mid-engine > application but backwards for a rear-engine one. Obviously a quattro tranny > wouldn't work, but I hafta believe that a 5000cs turbo (FWD) tranny could > handle anything you can throw at it within reason. As you probably know, > audi engines are mounted longitudinally, and Audi transaxles sure look like > Porsche/VW transaxles (if I recall correctly, the first Porsche 924 trannies > were an Audi part. Just that a big tube and output shaft separated the > engine and tranny). And if the ring/pinion is easy to flip, why not leave > the tranny connected with a nice Audi 4, 5, 6, or 8 that would fit under a > modified engine cover? I bet the whole unit from a 5000 CS turbo would cost > less than the Porche tranny by itself. > > Daniel Snow > PhD Student > UC Berkeley >


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