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Date:         Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:13:02 -0400
Reply-To:     The Bus Depot <vanagon@BUSDEPOT.COM>
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From:         The Bus Depot <vanagon@BUSDEPOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: For those of you awaiting your #@$%$  watertank fill outlets.
Comments: To: john tomljenovic <zadar72@YAHOO.COM>
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> Well I finally got the outlet today, and I am not impressed. > Apparently the maker saw fit for a redesign, instead of the hinged > cover and a keyed cap inside, the new setup is simply a keyed hatch > that opens downward to reveal the filler. The opening is really small. > And in the effort of even worse design the entire assembly is made of > plastic, even down to the keys! I have never seen a > bigger @#$%#@ pile of garbage in my life. > > This just sucks,safe to say I will be returning this item. > I just hope I can find the original design, hopefully VWoA > still has some lying around, despite inflated prices it is now worth it. > A Pox on the maker of such crap!

I don't know whether you got this from me or another vendor, but it's irrelevant because there is only one maker of the part, and everyone who sells it gets it from that maker.

That maker is the original supplier to Volkswagen. And it doesn't matter if you buy that part from the VW dealer, EuroAmerican, Go Westy, Bus Boys, myself, or anybody else, you will receive the identical part from the identical factory. All that will vary is how much you pay.

The part is genuine OEM Volkswagen, made from the original Westfalia/VW tooling, and is identical to what was provided with 1988 and later Westfalias. There is no direct-fit aftermarket part available for this application.

The inlet you have on your own Westfalia was discontinued late in 1986 and replaced by the version that you now received. All '88-91 Vanagons came factory-equipped with this later style and plastic key. The principle reason for the change is that the top-hinged inlet cover tended to break off when a hose was inserted, which is probably why you replaced yours. The "funnel" type design of the the later version eases filling and is less prone to breaking. (If yours actually broke, rather than just slipping off of the clip, when you were examining it, you certainly should contact the vendor for an exchange.) Another reason was the unavailability of the lock cylinders used in the earlier design. Opinions differ, but having lost my share of inlet covers (or the springs that keep them from flapping in the wind), I personally prefer the later design, which is not prone to the same problem that plagues all of the other inlets. I wish all three inlets had been redesigned with something other than those hinged covers that break off!

As recently as a year ago, it was possible to obtain a sort of "bastardized" version of the early filler that you had. Due to the unavailability of the lock cylinder, this version had no lock cylinder, nor the ability to accept your old one; just a hole for a hose under the flap. It may still be possible to get this; I simply haven't tried because nobody's asked for one in a couple of years.

The long backorder was because the tooling had broken and needed to be repaired. The factory was unable to supply any of its customers (including VW) with the inlets until the tooling was repaired, which took quite some time. Also, they will be passing on the cost of the repair in the price of the part, so a price increase is likely on the way. But the worse news is that the tooling is getting old, breaking more frequently, and costing more to repair each time. They have told me that it is nearing the point where it just won't be economical (or even possible) to repair. When that happens, they have no plans to retool from scratch because the cost would far exceed the profit potential. So it's only a matter of time before they simply discontinue the inlets completely. Unless someone comes up with a usable aftermarket replacement at that time, "flapless" inlets on Westfalias will gradually become the norm.

- Ron Salmon The Bus Depot, Inc. (215) 234-VWVW www.busdepot.com

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