Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:02:23 -0700
Reply-To: Coby Smolens <cobys5@HOME.COM>
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From: Coby Smolens <cobys5@HOME.COM>
Subject: Re: Dometic refrigerator cooling mystery, '89 Westy
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Thanks - I do truly appreciate the effort. A worthy attempt at a sticky
problem... I can't quite see how that would happen, though, for the reason
that the entire boiler stack including all three heat sources (which are
bundled close together around the bottom of the vertical boiler tube like
the smaller booster rockets around the bottom of the main stage of an Atlas
rocket) is wrapped in a thick blanket of insulation with a galvanized heat
shield around that. If there were any significant heat loss it would have to
be at the top of the stack where it wouldn't be noticeably different while
on propane or 110, since BOTH heat sources seem to be generating the same
temperature in the boiler tube). Also, while conducting this test, the
refrigerator was removed from the camper, with lots of ventilation around
the whole box.
Coby Smolens
Valley Wagonworks
VW Bus and Vanagon Specialists
"Intimately acquainted with VW Vans since 1959"
1535 SF Drake Blvd, San Anselmo, CA 94960
415-457-5628
-----Original Message-----
From: HavingABlast [mailto:havingablast@home.com]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 12:13 AM
To: Coby Smolens; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: RE: Dometic refrigerator cooling mystery, '89 Westy
Is it possible that some of the heat generated while on propane is leaking
into the cooled ammonia or into the fridge?
Maybe the cooling is being masked by reheating due to said leak.
Good luck!
Ron Antaki
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Coby Smolens
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 4:43 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Dometic refrigerator cooling mystery, '89 Westy
Good suggestion, but... Both Dave and I cleaned the flue, and I inspected it
with a boroscope (internally lighted fiber-optic device that lets you see
inside skinny little areas). It's spic and span. Since the flue IS the metal
being heated and the propane heat source for the boiler tube it's adjacent
to, it is important it be clean, as you suggest. However, the mystery here
is that the thing (the ammonia-water boiler tube) that's supposed to be
heated by the various (12V, 110AC, propane) heat sources IS being heated, to
about the same temperature in each case - yet while operating on propane the
cooler never gets past about 25 degrees below ambient, compared with more
than a 60 degree drop on 110AC. My question is either: What could account
for the discrepancy beyond the ammonia-water boiler; or, what am I missing
in my understanding of how this system works?
Thanks -
Coby Smolens
Valley Wagonworks
VW Bus and Vanagon Specialists
"Intimately acquainted with VW Vans since 1959"
1535 SF Drake Blvd, San Anselmo, CA 94960
415-457-5628
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Dana Morphew
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 4:20 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Dometic refrigerator cooling mystery, '89 Westy
I don't have a Westy fridge, but I do have a propane fueled demand-fired
hot water heater. You must have the metal that is in contact with the
flames as soot-free as you can do. The soot will insulate the metal
from the flames and badly degrade the exchange of heat.
-Dana-
>
> Dave told us the unit wouldn't cool beyond 10 deg F. below ambient while
> operating on propane, but made ice on house current. He cleaned the flue,
> checked flame everything seemed normal.
