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Date:         Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:43:20 -0700
Reply-To:     Coby Smolens <cobys5@HOME.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Coby Smolens <cobys5@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: clutch shudder
Comments: To: TinkerMan <tinkerman007@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To:  <20010827054257.97669.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com>
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Makes me wonder what parts they did replace, since the bearing comes with the clutch kit... Did they order the parts a la carte? They're more expensive that way, so I doubt it - unless they don't do much VW work and hence don't know what's usual. Maybe they just did the disk? We did a clutch job for a customer who had it done on the road at shop in New Mexico, where they were too busy, so they subbed the work out to one of their mechanics who did it after hours - it arrived by tow truck with a broken finger on the release lever shaft, and the only part that had been replaced was the disk - although they charged for the whole kit.

Coby Smolens Valley Wagonworks VW Bus and Vanagon Specialists "Intimately acquainted with VW Vans since 1959"

1535 SF Drake Blvd, San Anselmo, CA 94960 415-457-5628

-----Original Message----- From: TinkerMan [mailto:tinkerman007@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:43 PM To: Coby Smolens Cc: Vanagon mailing list Subject: Re: clutch shudder

Thanks for the in-depth and professional response...

No, I haven't asked them to keep costs absolutely down - on the contrary: I even asked them specifically to replace the pilot bearing but the mechanic said there was no need to (although I tried to insist, I didn't have the exact P.N. so somehow it wasn't done).

thanks,

T-man

More comments embedded within your response:

--- Coby Smolens <cobys5@HOME.COM> wrote: > Pilot Bearing: Also included in our estimate - it > comes in the clutch kit > from Sachs

I've specifically requested the other, better quality (as mentioned on the list) company which I can't recall right now.

> If this was the > original pilot bearing > it certainly should be replaced.

I'm not sure, but I'm checking with the PO. The van has 173K Km on it's dial, and I've owned it for 6 years and +90K, so the clutch has held for at least this long.

> Because of > these "extra" items, and > the additional time to replace them, a complete > clutch job can be a $800

Mine cost around $400 for the two clutch parts and R&R.

> again. It might be acceptable for them to charge you > for removing and > installing flywheel, seal and o-ring, & pilot > bearing, since their price

Do you have the exact VW parts I need to replace (I still haven't found a way to get an EKTA CD...:-)?

> would have possibly have been higher if they had > done these things in the > beginning. They should absorb the tranny R&R, > though.

That's what I thought too.

===== Cheers, TinkerMan

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