Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:04:36 -0700
Reply-To: Todd Last <Rubatoguy@MINDSPRING.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Todd Last <Rubatoguy@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: clutch shudder
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In my case the following was replaced:
Clutch disk
Clutch pressure plate
Throwout bearing
Guide sleeve
operating (cross) shaft
Flywheel O-ring, pilot bearing, pilot bearing seal
Flywheel seal
Right operating (cross) shaft bushing.
It ran fine for a few thousand miles, then started shuddering. In mine, it is
worse when cold, but always shudders in reverse or if you try to slip the
clutch.
Since I can see oil weeping from the transmission I suspected that is the source
of a leak.
Todd
Coby Smolens wrote:
> Makes me wonder what parts they did replace, since the bearing comes with
> the clutch kit... Did they order the parts a la carte? They're more
> expensive that way, so I doubt it - unless they don't do much VW work and
> hence don't know what's usual. Maybe they just did the disk? We did a clutch
> job for a customer who had it done on the road at shop in New Mexico, where
> they were too busy, so they subbed the work out to one of their mechanics
> who did it after hours - it arrived by tow truck with a broken finger on the
> release lever shaft, and the only part that had been replaced was the disk -
> although they charged for the whole kit.
>
> Coby Smolens
> Valley Wagonworks
> VW Bus and Vanagon Specialists
> "Intimately acquainted with VW Vans since 1959"
>
> 1535 SF Drake Blvd, San Anselmo, CA 94960
> 415-457-5628
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TinkerMan [mailto:tinkerman007@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:43 PM
> To: Coby Smolens
> Cc: Vanagon mailing list
> Subject: Re: clutch shudder
>
> Thanks for the in-depth and professional response...
>
> No, I haven't asked them to keep costs absolutely down
> - on the contrary: I even asked them specifically to
> replace the pilot bearing but the mechanic said there
> was no need to (although I tried to insist, I didn't
> have the exact P.N. so somehow it wasn't done).
>
> thanks,
>
> T-man
>
> More comments embedded within your response:
>
> --- Coby Smolens <cobys5@HOME.COM> wrote:
> > Pilot Bearing: Also included in our estimate - it
> > comes in the clutch kit
> > from Sachs
>
> I've specifically requested the other, better quality
> (as mentioned on the list) company which I can't
> recall right now.
>
> > If this was the
> > original pilot bearing
> > it certainly should be replaced.
>
> I'm not sure, but I'm checking with the PO. The van
> has 173K Km on it's dial, and I've owned it for 6
> years and +90K, so the clutch has held for at least
> this long.
>
> > Because of
> > these "extra" items, and
> > the additional time to replace them, a complete
> > clutch job can be a $800
>
> Mine cost around $400 for the two clutch parts and
> R&R.
>
> > again. It might be acceptable for them to charge you
> > for removing and
> > installing flywheel, seal and o-ring, & pilot
> > bearing, since their price
>
> Do you have the exact VW parts I need to replace (I
> still haven't found a way to get an EKTA CD...:-)?
>
> > would have possibly have been higher if they had
> > done these things in the
> > beginning. They should absorb the tranny R&R,
> > though.
>
> That's what I thought too.
>
> =====
> Cheers,
> TinkerMan
>
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