Date:         Sun, 2 Sep 2001 20:29:11 EDT
Reply-To:     BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Benjamin Tan <BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM>
Subject:      MSDS 5-spd conversion info restriction
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 Heloe all,

I had asked permission to publish instructions for the MSDS 5-spd conversion.
The MSDS reply can be viewed below. I will not be publishing or providing
such information as originally posted. My reply to MSDS follows at the bottom:

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<MSDS Response>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I thank the vanagon community for its interest in the  upgrade products that
we build here at msds inc. There is absolutely no problem with posting images
of SALES items that we build / sell throughout the aftermarket.

However , I do not approve , allow ,or give any rights to anyone who copies ,
prints, publishes or transmits (jpegs etc.) any of our instructions,
text/diagrams /photos associated with  installations, normally supplied with
our kits. These are copyrighted, and indicated as such on the documents.

Since we only sell complete installation kits, and not seperate components
out of the kits, the instructions are not offered for sale either.

Other than that , we keep a keen eye on the internet boards for interesting
things that pop up . When and if this msds customer posts these instructions
to the internet, we will refer the issue to our legal dept.

Hope this explains things,   Thank you
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<END of Reply>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<MY reply to Response>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That's why I thought I'd ask. It looked like proprietary information.
However, there is nothing in the 2-page sheet that I saw which indicated any
copyright or trademark. The only reason I knew it was yours was the header
and obvious references to an "MSDS" kit. These, by the way, appear to be a
couple if not several years old. It looked very preliminary and prototypical.

At any rate. I will not post anything that I am aware is objected to by the
originator of the material. That is more my personal policy more than any
legal issue. Otherwise, I would have just posted it and waited for somebody
to contact me to cease and desist.

I do appreciate your prompt reply to this matter. Rest assured that my
involvement with this issue ends here.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Finito Angelino>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Mr. Benjamin E.S. Tan
simply the BEST