Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:45:07 -0700
Reply-To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject: Re: Engine shot? Odd compression readings
In-Reply-To: <B7CB84A9.64A%steveis@speakeasy.org>
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Compression tests are a lot like snake oil in my opinion.
I am installing a 1.8L "RV" Digifant II motor in a customers 1982 Vanagon
(formerly Diesel)(OK, have installed, as of tonight). With the engine on my
test stand with a VW Rabbit starter it did 170-170-170-170 PSI across all
four - this is with a warm engine (oil at >80C) and a fully charged battery.
Installing the engine in the Diesel Vanagon resulted in 205-205-205-200 when
it was warm. Why? The Diesel starter sure spins the engine over in a
hurry! Also, how many "chugs" do you count before you stop spinning the
engine? I count 10. Do you hold the throttle open or closed - there are SO
many variables with a compression test. The thing to do is a leak down test
along with a compression test - much more meaningful results.
David Marshall
Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
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Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Steve Sullivan
Sent: September 17, 2001 10:45 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Engine shot? Odd compression readings
Just completed my first ever compression check on my 1.9L with 170k on it.
Recently had a "bottom end" (why do they call it that?) job of re-ring, new
rod bearings, and completely rebuilt heads. Am concerned about the readings
I got, need you expert's help diagnosing results. (Not sure I have the
cylinder numbers right.)
#1 (RR): 152 psi
#2 (RF): 115 psi
#3 (LR): 160 psi
#4 (LF): 131 psi
According to friend Bentley, that's mostly within specs:
Range
Ideal: 145 - 189 My van: 115 - 160
Minimum
Ideal: 116 My van: 115
Max difference between highest and lowest
Ideal: 44 My van: 45
The two front cylinders are low, the two rear cylinders are OK, all are low.
What gives? After re-ringing the pistons, honing the cylinders, and
rebuilding the heads (and a great break-in), shouldn't the readings all be
correct? Or are my valves out of adjustment (haven't adjusted since
assembly, been a couple thousand miles since)?
Thanks for the help. Wanted your advice before calling the rebuild shop, so
I know what I'm talking about.
Steve
Calvin, the 84 Westy
Steve Sullivan
Off the Map Consulting
1326 S. 13th St.
Mount Vernon, WA 98274
360-428-7018
steveis@speakeasy.org
