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Date:         Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:36:37 EDT
Reply-To:     Merrag@AOL.COM
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From:         Raul Cisneros <Merrag@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Driving into NYC and using a parking Garage
Comments: To: ejstevens@earthlink.net
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In a message dated 10/4/01 12:38:43 PM, ejstevens@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

<< I have to drive to NYC this weekend and I will undoubtably be using 1 or 2 parking garages.

I will be away on an Indian Guides cabin camping trip in NJ with my 8 year old son and bringing the 84 Westfalia camper would be perfect for the stuff I have to bring and the cooking we are planning to do with 7 other dads and their sons. But I have to make an 8 hour trip into Manhattan on Saturday and then back to the NJ cabin.

If I recall correctly there have been numerous incidents of roof damage in garages and I do not want to become one. My choices seem to be:

1 -I have another vehicle I can bring (1999 Honda Odyssey) that would not present the same potential problems. A no brainer.

2 -Trying to make the Westie a fool proof parking job. [ never underestimate the power of a fool!]

I have an 84 Wolfsberg Westfalia that my owners guide says is 80.7 inches tall (6 ft 8.7 inches). Since I will have the vent down, I'll say it is 6 ft 10 inches for safety sake. How does that compare with Manhattan garages? I'll certainly pay attention to signs and height bars at the street entrance.

In addition I was thinking of writing a sign that says

WARNING - THIS IS A TALL VEHICLE THAT NEEDS SPECIAL CARE. IT IS 6 FT 10 INCHES TALL. IF YOU DAMAGE THE ROOF IT WILL BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY TO FIX IT AND IT WILL BE VERY EXPENSIVE.

Allowing for English as a second language I will write it out. I would show this to the attendant and request special parking considerations. Aren't they responsible for this type of damage?

Any recommendations, caveats and suggestions are appreciated? Should I seriously leave the bus home and have a second rate camping experience with my son just because I am concerned.

I am going to be really upset if anything happens to my van in a Manhattan parking garage. >>

Ed, Chill out, parking and driving around NYC in your Westy is not a big deal. First of all, there are almost as many parking LOTS with no roof or door to cause concern, as there are muliti level garages. Secondly, even though a parking attendant may know more than one languge, he is a parking professional who is regularly charged with parking cars many times more expensive than ours, and he knows the limitations of the garage in which he works. Besides, I think most of the roof rash jobs are done by the owners themselves. Thirdly, unless you are going to midtown or are late to your appointment, park on the street, save the twenty five bucks and buy your Westy a few I Love NY stickers. I regularly drive my a westy into NYC and almost never use a parking garage or lot, and if I do I may point out that my Syncro Westy with 15 inch rims and BFG ATs with a Yakima rack may sit a tad higher than most minivans, but I would NEVER threaten them with a sign written in all upper case, because this will certainly invite some inventive mischief. Even with out of state plates, I think you’ll be fine on the street, drive around a few blocks of your destination and you can usually find a place to park all day(read the signs), maybe park uptown all day and take a cab or subway to any other place, or go ahead and park in a lot or garage, but dont get too worked up about it.

have fun,

Raul Cisneros Nyack, NY


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