Date:         Fri, 12 Oct 2001 23:08:41 -0700
Reply-To:     Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: [F] Flying pigs
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Perhaps you should take your closed minded attitudes to somewhere where the
people in charge have the right to determine your thoughts.
This person evolked a well thought out response, his feelings, of the
stupidity being taken by the United States against the Afgan peoples. This
being a free country, what right do you have to question:
1.) His patriotism because he disagrees (first amendment don'tchaknow)...
2.) His interpretation of the illegality of war acts (state sponsered
terrorism in my mind) by involking the war powers act on a country that has
done nothing to provoke this response. And don't give me the Bin Laden shit.
If it were the Isrealis, they would just go get them wouldn't they?
This is not the place for political forum and I apologize.

And by the way.. the original post was in very bad taste and pretty funny.

tim in san jose.


>Perhaps you and your pakistani friend should recall that when the United
>States is attacked, the President may enter into actions as he deems fit as
>Commander In Chief. The War Powers Act of 1973 addresses this nicely.
>Formal
>declaration of war, which haven't been done since WWII is a Congressional
>duty.
>
>If you are truly offended, maybe you should drive your Vanagon (content) to
>a place more to your liking. If a country defending itself against attack
>doesn't ring reasonable to you, not much probably will. We'd hate for you
>to
>be unhappy.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jermide" <jermide@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 7:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [F] Flying pigs
>
>
> > After consulting with a Pakistani neighbor of mine and repeating this
>joke,
> > he was somewhat offended by it. However, he is more offended by the
>bombing
> > of Afghanistan and our war without official declaration. I agree with
>him
>on
> > both points.
> >
> > That said, it's one thing to joke about sensitive subjects with personal
> > friends whose thoughts and positions you know well. On the other hand, I
> > think it's rather inconsiderate to broadcast it openly in front of
> > strangers. I wouldn't call it racism, though.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeremy
> > 85 GL "Blau"
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Stann" <ChrisS@INFORMS.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:44 PM
> > Subject: [F] Flying pigs
> >
> >
> > > I, along with a few idle co-workers, was able to come up with a tactic
> > that
> > > should help our Afghanistan effort tremendously while keeping
>casualties,
> > as
> > > in dead people, down to a minimum.  We all know that it is strictly
> > > forbidden in the Muslim world to think of, touch, or eat any pig or
> > > pig-related meat products.  I suggested that we develop a
> > > genetically-engineered remotely-controlled radioactive flying pig,
>hoards
> > of
> > > them, and send them to Afghanistan.  The creatures would literally
>'buzz'
> > > the Afghani mosques and buildings, or huts, and explode at will.  This
> > would
> > > send pig meat flying for several hundred yards in all directions.
>Such
> > > tainted soil, homes, and people would immediately be proclaimed
>'unholy'
> > and
> > > 'desecrated' and unsuitable for use.  These pigs would have
>night-vision
> > > enhanced capabilities that would enable them to fly into those caves
>where
> > > the Al Queda (sp?) soldiers are hiding.  When there, the pigs, or
>Peagles,
> > > as a cross between a pig and an eagle, would let out that
> > characteristically
> > > piggy, shrill sound and again, explode.  Surely, such contamination
>would
> > > drive those rebels to suicide, immediate conversion, or, at least, a
>bath
> > or
> > > two.
> > >
> > > Also in the works, the Bacon Amulet for our troops and a new weapon to
> > > replace some of the smart bombs, the lard-balloon.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Chris.
> > >
> > > P.S.  Patent Pending.
> > >
>
>
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