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Date:         Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:46:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Near Death Experience in the Vanagon
Comments: To: Mike Williams <westyvanagon@YAHOO.COM>

V'gons most likely aren't safe when being driven with craniorectalitis, to say nothing of a bad attitude toward snowbirds. When you know that the road is populated with less-than-competent drivers, you just need to be extra vigilant; that means not driving down US 60 at greater than the speed limit looking north while driving east!

BTW, I've been in two accidents in my Westy: one with a Ford 3.4 ton truck and once with a Dodge 1/5 ton Ram something-or-other. The Dodge was totaled and the Ford badly damaged. We left on vacation as soon as the ruckus cleared with the Ford, and there was less than a thousand dollars damage after the collision with the Dodge.

Other than the frustration of waiting to pass them, I've never had a problem with a snowbird's driving, and I've been driving the streets of Phoenix for thirty years.

Karl Wolz Phoenix

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Williams" <westyvanagon@YAHOO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:00 PM Subject: Re: Near Death Experience in the Vanagon

> mind you all who say "competence" has so much to do > with wether you crash or not...that this is phoenix > after all...and any of you that have driven here with > the "snow birds" (old folks that come from every nook > and cranny of the country for the windter), you > wouldn't be saying that competence had much to do with > my situation last night. i would also like to point > out to andrew that i was not blaming the vehicle at > any point in my mail...i was simply saying that in a > crash like the one i was almost a part of...the > vanagon would have lost...no question about it! i > would have reared an oversized SUV at 65-70mph...tell > me i'd still be alive. competence doesn't have much > to do with a head on collision when the 2 right lanes > of traffic come to a complete standstill because some > old hag decides to swerve from the fast lane across 4 > other lanes so she doesn't miss her damn exit...uh > oh...prune juice is kickin in... > > Myc > > p.s. vanagons are not safe against anything of > comparable size...show me a crash test with any other > minivan out there... > > > --- "R. Hotchkiss" <richard.hotchkiss@VERIZON.NET> > wrote: > > I don't understand how a Vanagon could get a bad > > rating at 35 mph. I > > went ice skating in mine at 40 mph and banged into > > the guard rail twice > > with minimal damage (had to pick up the bumper). I > > was amazed at how > > strong the van is and how well I was kept in my seat > > (everything else > > flew). Nobody was injured, not a scratch. > > > > My next near death experience was getting the paint > > job done at > > Maaco.... > > > > Hotch > > 86 Vanagon GL > > Philly > > > > -- > > Richard Hotchkiss > > http://www.hotstrings-inc.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com >


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