Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:35:31 -1000
Reply-To: Mick Kalber <hotlava@INTERPAC.NET>
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From: Mick Kalber <hotlava@INTERPAC.NET>
Subject: Re: Parts suppliers for "Half Liley"?
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Joel...
I did the half lilley about a year ago. Robert Lilley helped me acquire all
the necessary parts. I went with the 1.4's. It was my understanding that
the 1.25's were what Robert suggested if you were not going to do the chip
upgrade. Anyway, below is a list of parts and suppliers by Robert...
contact Robert (wolfvan88@aol.com) for more information. My rocking ratio
rollers were made by Pauter. I chose them over Berg... can't remember why
exactly. Pauter's were $300 and some odd dollars if I recall. Robert sent
me the Cromoly push rods and chip at the same time, and Bosh quads as well.
I've had good ;uck with the quads, but some listees insist that the triple
tips and better for the WBX... may try them next time. Also I went with the
Stebro stainless steel muffler instead of the dynamax... it's a bit pricey
(the stebro), but it's nice. I can't tell you how much I love my upgrade...
It's so easy to do and makes such a difference. I can't believe more people
don't do it. It's not even that expensive, especially if you can get a
group price discount.
Good luck.
Mick Kalber
89 Syncro Westy "Daddeo"
Tropical Visions Video, Inc.
62 Halaulani Place
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
808-935-5557
808-935-0066 (fax)
hotlava@interpac.net
www.volcanoscapes.com
<<<I am considering adding ratio rockers, a free flow exhaust and maybe a
k+nair filter on a sound and otherwise stock 2.1 wbx.My Questions are what
kindof power improvement can I expect,what rockers will work best with a
stockengine (1:4 1:3 or 1:25)>>>
It depends on your budget as to what ratio rockers to use and IF you plan to
rebuild in the future.
I would use the 1.25 ratio IF you are not going to add the Aussie ECU
upgrade
chip.
The chip allows the ECU to better handle the changes in airflow that the
higher ratio rockers add.
CB Performance upgrade from stock parts:
1628 Cromoly Push Rods 90,000 PSI $44.95
1665 Rhino 1.25 Ratio Rockers $119.95
1642 Rhino Feet (Porsche 911 style valve adjusting screws) $32.95
1643 High Performance Rocker Shafts $31.95
1534 Rocker Arm pads $4.95
1644 Rocker Arm Spacer kit $10.95
1691 Clip On Valve Covers $16.95---
YOU WILL NEED a bigger rocker cover if you use ratios rockers!!
Talk to David at:
david@clubvw.org.au
He sells the chip.
If you are adding the chip then 1.3 or 1.4 ratio depends if you plan to
rebuild in the future AND change the cam profile to increase the lift.
IF you are NOT going to change the cam use 1.4
If you are going to change the cam us 1.3.
There are several different brands to choose from:
Berg, CB Performance, Autocrat, Pauter.
There are two different styles the slider and roller tip.
Pauter is the only one I know that has the roller tip. This has a roller
that contacts the valve tip and rolls across the tip rather than sliding
across the tip.
I like the roller tip because it reduces the friction on the valve tip that
leads to the stem wearing out the guide. I also like the fact that these
rockers are light weight aluminum billets that reduce the rocker weight and
eliminates the need for heavier valve springs. When you increase lift you
also need to increase valve spring pressure to keep from going into valve
float, but when you do, you increase cam and lifter wear and reduce HP.
Reducing the valve train weight that the spring has to push, increases the
working spring pressure and keeps you from having to go to heavier springs,
so you get the benefit of ratio rockers without the penalty of heavier
springs.
Costs are @300 ~330 for a set of rockers.
Look in VW mags for the best prices.
I think that the Berg set ($400) includes push rods.
The other sets you need to add cut to fit Cromoly push rods. These are
stronger and lighter than stock the steel.
Cost ~$40 to $60.
As far as muffler, I choose the
A-1 Performance
12470 Northwest Freeway
Houston, Texas 77092
Phone - (716) 889-2786
Fax - (716) 889-5218
http://www.a-1performance.com/super_turbo/index.htm
Information: http://www.a-1performance.com/super_turbo/index.htm
Part Number 17783
http://www.a-1performance.com/super_turbo/mufflers/super_turbo_mufflers_page
2.
htm
Cost:
http://www.a-1performance.com/super_turbo/mufflers/super_turbo_mufflers_pric
e.
htmParts Listl DynoMax Turbo Muffler
It is basically a bolt in with you needing to get:
A three bolt European flange (the muffler comes with a two bolt)
Bend the stock mounts done a little to allow the muffler to fit.
As far as tail pipe you can have one made, use a forty-five degree 2"
extension pipe (from Autozone) and a single Monza tip. That requires no
welding or expensive shop time. Total cost is @$100
K&N
Source for K&N airfilter:
Performance International
696 West 18th Street Costa Mesa, CA 92627
1-800-522-1672
http://www.performanceintl.com/
Email: performanceintl@virtualrep.comParts List
E-2475 K&N Air Filter 1 $27.42 (I think it is a few dollars more now)
99-5050 K&N Service Kit 1 $8.95
Shipping 1 $6.50
$42.87
Use the Bosch Quad tip plugs
I am using the platinum quad tip plugs. They do not make a plug
specifically
for the WBX engine, but plug #4477 is the # to get.
Make sure all FI parts are operating correctly, intakes are tight and
gaskets
do not leak. Air runner
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: Joel Sell <jsell@PHILA.K12.PA.US>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 6:33 PM
Subject: Parts suppliers for "Half Liley"?
> Volks,
> this weekend I'll be tearing down my 2.1L Carat's engine to
replace the
> head gaskets and do the JBweld fix on the heads. While I have the heads
> off, I want to do the half liley. I just don't know where to get the
parts.
> Ratio rocker arms?
> Chromoly pushrods?
> Bosh Platinum 4 spark plugs?
> Please help.
> Joel
>