I used a regular Black Cat in early September when it was 32 degrees (at 9,500'). There was a strong, gusty wind. With the top up, nothing much was happening. When I shut the pop-top, it warmed up nicely. Then I installed the Carver P4 I've had for a couple of years and on a recent trip to the high desert, it was 23 degrees the first night. It took the Carver about an hour to get it warm (with the top closed.) I believe the Carver is ~7200 BTU and the Coleman is ~5000. Neither comes close to the BA6 in my '81! Richard A. Jones Boulder, Colorado '81 Vanagon Mr Bus '87 Syncro Westy El Jefe
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