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Date:         Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:00:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Chuck Seleen <cseleen@TOGETHER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Chuck Seleen <cseleen@TOGETHER.NET>
Subject:      Re: winter tire thoughts
Comments: To: JKrevnov@AOL.COM
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I put studded 185R14 Nokia-C2's on this weekend--I'll give a report on their performance after the first snowfall which will be soon here in Northern Vermont!!!

Chuck Seleen K9 BUS 91 Vanagon GL

----- Original Message ----- From: Rico Sapolich <JKrevnov@AOL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: Re: winter tire thoughts

> In a message dated 11/6/01 10:42:28 PM, gwilke@LIVEMUSIC.ORG writes: > > << Yokohama said that they are making the 356 but they don't > > recommend them for snow. >> > > Geoff, > > It has been my experience that they should tell you that they are absolutely > useless in snow. > > It has recently been pointed out to me that I am a one of vanishing breed > because I still switch to dedicated snow tires. But, then again, my feet > stay dry through most of what Mother Nature brews up each winter. I greeted > my first winter in the driver's seat of a 2WD Vanagon shod with Yoko 356's. > All it took was one snowfall before I was franticly searching out a pair of > Hakkapeliita 10's. Mounting the Hakka's with a100# bag of sand hovering over > each rear wheel solved that problem. > > From my experience, I can make two endorsements: > 1/ Nokia Hakkapelitta C2's. These replace the Hakka 10's which are no > longer made. I ran a set on a Syncro last winter and I noticed no > difference. Previously, I ran the Hakka 10's year round for more than 2 ye > ars and they performed well the whole time. > > 2/ For years I used Vredestein Snow++'s on Volvo's only switching to Hakka's > when the Vredesteins were no longer readily available. The two seemed to > perform the same in snow, but I preferred the Vredesteins because they were a > little quieter on dry pavement. If a ready source for the Vredesteins comes > up, I have enough confidence in the product that I will use them again. > > Rich


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