Date:         Fri, 9 Nov 2001 16:59:04 -0800
Reply-To:     developtrust <developtrust@HOME.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         developtrust <developtrust@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Thanks for proving my point
Comments: To: PSavage <psavage@SABER.NET>
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I thought I sent my response to the whole group. I hit "reply all" and assumed it went to the whole group. Thank you for doing it for me. Your note and the way you responded to me and attempted to humiliate me PROVES my point about attitude adjustment. I thought we lived in a country with free speech where we could all express ourselves even when what we say may be unpopular or not attuned to the IN GROUP or as one person said this "Vanagon tight group."

You are stuck in a rut of needing to be in control, have the last word and obviously have used criticism and condemnation as your method of communication.

But let me say this. Let's just say you are right and I am wrong.

Blessings to you all. Long live free speech and if anyone can not handle it chill out and get a grip on your sense of humor and your attunement to the American way. Freedom sweet freedom.

I don't need insults or overreactions like a person who assumed I wanted to sell a used seat for $850 (get a grip!)

William (my former message to psavage whomever you are is below)

Dear Phandera,
Some of the women on this list need an attitude adjustment also. Chill out
and let everyone be. Much of what I read is tongue in cheek anyway. In my
experience most women are spoiled, vain, self indulgent, demanding, and use
rejection and criticism as their weapons of choice. Then THEY get their just
rewards as lonely old bitter women as time marches on.

Then there are always exceptions. Rare but there are a few good men and
women out here.

Less criticism and more acceptance of the way it all is I say.

William



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alan Bosch 
  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: I Rest My Case (Re Vanagon List Wives)



  Phaedra wrote thus: 
  <<<snip>>>William Developtrust,
  I suggest it's your sense of humor that's in need of
  development.  Tho I may be too subtle for likes of you,
  I assure you my tongue is quite at home in my cheek!
  The women of this list, tho not numerous, are valuable
  contributors & fun loving members of this online community.

  Since you've taken the time to identify yourself to me
  personally in your (below) p-mail, I thought I'd share your
  smug & virulent communique with the rest of the list.
  I rest my case<<<snip>>> 

  Here, here!!  A woman that knows her men...!!  :o) 

  Mr. Developtrust, you are unknown to me.  I can not recall your writings to the list prior to this week.  Methinks you mean well, but you need to lay off the opinions until you get a feel for the folks on this list.  We are a tight-knit community, and while new members are welcome - indeed, embraced - you need to know the folks in order to insult them.  Post your questions and lurk for a while.  It's a great education. 

  And to comment on a post you put up earlier...  Why would you need head gaskets on a engine that had only 35k miles?  Seems a bit too soon for that.  Are you sure the dealer didn't need the $$$ for his boat payment?  Just wondering... 

  Alan Bosch 
  & Phred ('88 Wolfsburg)

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