Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:17:58 -0800
Reply-To: Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Thanks for proving my point
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I suspect we all need to chill out over this.
1.) This is not about free speech. As has been discussed many times before
you got here, this is not a public forum, it's private. It runs at the will
and desires of some guy in Maryland. Thank you very much Tom. We all pretty
much accept it. And so should you.
2.) Phaedra is a very strong willful person. Even if I don't agree with her,
I like the way she puts things. She has brought immense amounts of diverse,
interesting, and yes, sometimes controversial posts to our group. She has
regaled us with tales of multi-month camping trips on the beaches of Mexico,
hair raising stories of third world country truck drivers, a strong sense of
what it takes to maintain oneself under less than ideal conditions for long
stretches of time. I like her and I suspect most people here do too.
3.) For a price ($49.95), I can send you "How to Use Your Mail Reader" by D.
Seuss. It will captivate you and keep you from making major paus faux in the
future.
4.) I too have gotten caught up in what seemed at the time, important issues
on this list. And was promptly told to shut it down. In retrospect, that's
the best way to be if you are going to survive on this list. Those that
couldn't (like Dr. Tim) won't last no matter how good the imput they could
provide would be.
Take care, have a great weekend.
tim in san jose
>I thought I sent my response to the whole group. I hit "reply all" and
>assumed it went to the whole group. Thank you for doing it for me. Your
>note and the way you responded to me and attempted to humiliate me PROVES
>my point about attitude adjustment. I thought we lived in a country with
>free speech where we could all express ourselves even when what we say may
>be unpopular or not attuned to the IN GROUP or as one person said this
>"Vanagon tight group."
>
>You are stuck in a rut of needing to be in control, have the last word and
>obviously have used criticism and condemnation as your method of
>communication.
>
>But let me say this. Let's just say you are right and I am wrong.
>
>Blessings to you all. Long live free speech and if anyone can not handle it
>chill out and get a grip on your sense of humor and your attunement to the
>American way. Freedom sweet freedom.
>
>I don't need insults or overreactions like a person who assumed I wanted to
>sell a used seat for $850 (get a grip!)
>
>William (my former message to psavage whomever you are is below)
>
>Dear Phandera,
>Some of the women on this list need an attitude adjustment also. Chill out
>and let everyone be. Much of what I read is tongue in cheek anyway. In my
>experience most women are spoiled, vain, self indulgent, demanding, and use
>rejection and criticism as their weapons of choice. Then THEY get their
>just
>rewards as lonely old bitter women as time marches on.
>
>Then there are always exceptions. Rare but there are a few good men and
>women out here.
>
>Less criticism and more acceptance of the way it all is I say.
>
>William
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Bosch
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: I Rest My Case (Re Vanagon List Wives)
>
>
>
> Phaedra wrote thus:
> <<<snip>>>William Developtrust,
> I suggest it's your sense of humor that's in need of
> development. Tho I may be too subtle for likes of you,
> I assure you my tongue is quite at home in my cheek!
> The women of this list, tho not numerous, are valuable
> contributors & fun loving members of this online community.
>
> Since you've taken the time to identify yourself to me
> personally in your (below) p-mail, I thought I'd share your
> smug & virulent communique with the rest of the list.
> I rest my case<<<snip>>>
>
> Here, here!! A woman that knows her men...!! :o)
>
> Mr. Developtrust, you are unknown to me. I can not recall your writings
>to the list prior to this week. Methinks you mean well, but you need to
>lay off the opinions until you get a feel for the folks on this list. We
>are a tight-knit community, and while new members are welcome - indeed,
>embraced - you need to know the folks in order to insult them. Post your
>questions and lurk for a while. It's a great education.
>
> And to comment on a post you put up earlier... Why would you need head
>gaskets on a engine that had only 35k miles? Seems a bit too soon for
>that. Are you sure the dealer didn't need the $$$ for his boat payment?
>Just wondering...
>
> Alan Bosch
> & Phred ('88 Wolfsburg)
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