Date:         Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:15:55 -0800
Reply-To:     mike miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         mike miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Van Gremlins
In-Reply-To:  <3BF6F98C.34B32@qwest.net>
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Well, I tried it just now and it ran...enough to get it under cover at
least.  One thing I hadn't reported was that the gas mileage on the trip was
15.6 when I normally get around 20.

Still sound like Temp II sensor?

Mike

> From: andrewbell <andrewbell@QWEST.NET>
> Reply-To: andrewbell <andrewbell@QWEST.NET>
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:58:04 -0600
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Van Gremlins
>
> I Agree. This happened to my Van - never had the same problem again, two years
> and counting.
>
> AB
>
> Alfred Bagdan wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>> I had a similar problem once.  It turned out the TempII sensor.  Van started
>> when cold,  ran rough when hot (intermittently), would not start when hot
>> (most times).
>> After replacing the sensor, van ran great again.
>> However with the vanagon, it could be any number of other problems.  If you
>> are fixing by trial and error,  replacing the temp2 sensor is one of the
>> cheapest parts to start with, especially with the symptoms you have.
>>
>> Alfred
>> 85 Westy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mike miller" <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Van Gremlins
>>
>>> Volks,
>>>
>>> My son and I took the 85 Westy on a trip.  Many times it has kind of
>>> hesitated at about 100 miles, then it smooths out and is fine.
>>>
>>> This time it started at 50 miles and got worse.  Had to go down a gear
>> lower
>>> than usual to get up the mountains.  Stopped for dinner and it wouldn't
>>> start afterward.  Starter spun it very well, no fire at all.
>>>
>>> Checked for spark and it was weak but there.  Fuel pump made it noise on
>>> turning the key.  Tried it several more times, nothing, no effort to kick
>>> over at all.
>>>
>>> Had a spare coil [Bosche from the last episode of missing which turned out
>>> to be plugs wires] plugged it in, much better spark, no help with
>> starting.
>>>
>>> Tried spraying carb cleaner into the intake [removed the air filter]
>>> nothing.  Spent the night in the parking lot.  Started the next morning
>> ran
>>> like a tank until it ran out of gas 10 miles from home.  Put gas in and it
>>> started and ran fine.  Got home and then tried to start it and it did the
>>> same no fire at all trick that it did at the restaurant the night before.
>>>
>>> My son's guess was that the first coil was bad [new Bosche] and when we
>> put
>>> the old coil in the engine was flooded from the earlier tries to start it.
>>>
>>> But that doesn't explain why it's doing it again.  He still thinks fuel
>>> delivery problems, my guess is gremlins.
>>>
>>> Anybody else got an idea.
>>>
>