Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:04:23 -0600
Reply-To: Chris Smith <chris.smith@AQUILA.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Chris Smith <chris.smith@AQUILA.NET>
Subject: Re: Phone list part 2
In-Reply-To: <B828F94D.BE1%ben@kbmc.net>
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I've been on the AIRS list from it's foundation. I've received 3 calls for
help and 2 calls for coffee/chat since I've been on. The best part is no
spam. The email address on the list was for a long time an account that
was only for use from that list. My Eudora software would simply check
that account as well as my "real" ones. For the most part it has never
received junk emails.
If they would list more data for the non-water-aversion types (vehicles
that have radiators) this would be the perfect solution.
Chris Smith
Unemployed Bum
At 08:03 AM 11/27/01 -0800, Ben McCafferty wrote:
>Ladies and gentlemen,
>Top o' the mornin' to ya.
>There are mixed opinions, but the bottom line is, most think this is a good
>idea, and a few think we should just join the AIRS list at type2.com.
>
>I like the idea of AIRS, since they have 1100 members already, and a cool
>web format (you click on the state you want, or other region in the world,
>and the site displays listees in that area along who have signed up along
>with their relevant data). I emailed the admins for the site, and am
>waiting to hear back from them. The downside right now is that the site
>only allows you to list knowledgeability on 1200-1600 air-cooled engines, as
>well as type 4. Nothing Vanagon related. If they'd be willing to update
>the site to include the various vanagon and syncro derivitaves (tiico and
>conversions too?), it would be perfect. There are quite a few Vanagon
>owners on there already.
>
>The downside of AIRS is that it's totally exposed to anyone who wants to
>look. I'm not as sharp on my HTML as I could be, so you techies out there:
>if a vendor/telemarketer/etc. wanted to crawl the AIRS list to extract names
>and phone numbers/emails, they could do so, couldn't they?
>
>So I'm still open to thoughts on security. I had the thought of a basic
>text file with a heavy disclaimer at the beginning forbidding usage of the
>list for any purpose other than VW assistance while traveling. I had a
>friend who was being called 3x a day in CO by Sears to sell him vinyl
>siding. He asked them repeatedly to stop calling, which they didn't do. He
>finally taped a conversation with them saying that each additional phone
>call from them would be agreement by them to pay him $500. They kept
>calling, and he eventually pocketed $5000 in court. So maybe something like
>that as a disclaimer? Hmmmm...... Otherwise, it seems like a
>password-protected site is the other logical option. It would be possible
>for someone to research the password on the list archive, but not as easy
>for a random crawler to get in. Other thoughts?
>
>Anyway, I'm still up for doing the list, and a number of people are
>interested, so I'll keep you posted when I hear from AIRS.
>
>tx,
>bmc :)
>"Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."
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