Date:         Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:37:36 -0600
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Missing Exhaust bolts
Comments: To: ppg1@HOTMAIL.COM
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I've been running my 83 Westy for seven years and I've had the heater
boxes, muffler  off about five times in those years. I but the copper
plated (steel) exhaust nuts and use never seize and I've never had any
problems.
I don't have to deal with salt on the roads here in Texas so your needs
may be more severe but I've also used brass nuts on steel and they work
well too.

Stan Wilder
83 Westfalia Air Cooled

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:01:10 -0600 Kim G <ppg1@HOTMAIL.COM> writes:
> right, but stainless does not rust and that's why I chose stainless,
> because
> I am sure I will have to remove my exhaust sometime in the future,
> and I do
> not want to have to cut all the rusted nuts and bolts.
> bye,
> kim
>
>
> >From: "Vanagon Man" <puzerewski@msn.com>
> >To: "Kim G" <ppg1@HOTMAIL.COM>, <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >Subject: Re:      Re: Missing Exhaust bolts
> >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:10:40 -0500
> >
> >Stainless steel is not stronger than steel.  It is more brittle.
> Stick
> >with
> >high grade steel fasteners for jobs such as this.  Leave stainless
> for the
> >ornamental stuff (screws holding in mirrors, etc)
> >
> >Adam P
> >81 westy (3 of them)
> >74 beetle
> >73 Transporter (at paint shop!)
> >70 Single Cab  "Whitey"
> >Vanagon Partsmobiles
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kim G" <ppg1@HOTMAIL.COM>
> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:52 PM
> >Subject: Re: Missing Exhaust bolts
> >
> >
> > > The same thing happened on my van too, after I replaced the
> exhaust.  I
> >used
> > > all new stainless nuts and bolts w/ anti-seize.  It has become
> habit to
> > > check the bolts when I crawl under the van now.
> > > Also, my brand new complete exhaust that I installed in May of
> this year
> > > already has 2 broken brackets.  Not what I expected when I paid
> close to
> > > $500 for all new exhaust, and it has started to fall apart in 6
> months
> >time.
> > > bye,
> > > Kim
> > > 85 GL
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Blake Thornton <thornton@MATH.UTAH.EDU>
> > > >Reply-To: Blake Thornton <thornton@MATH.UTAH.EDU>
> > > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > >Subject: Missing Exhaust bolts
> > > >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:29:26 -0700
> > > >
> > > >I climbed in my 84 van this morning and turned it on, and boy
> did it
> >sound
> > > >rough.  I figured it was just cold (it was probably 15 degrees
> F here
> >in
> > > >Utah this morning) and I figured the van needed to warm up.
> Well, it
> > > >sounded very rough the whole ride and when I got home I looked
> >underneath
> > > >and took a look.
> > > >
> > > >Where the collector pipes (attached to the heads) meet the next
> pipe
> >(the
> > > >pipe with the O2 sensor in it), there are four bolts (two for
> each
> >pipe),
> > > >and I only had one.  Somehow three of the bolts came undone!  I
> put a
> >new
> > > >exhaust gasket (it was missing where the bolts were missing)
> and put in
> > > >some new bolts, but why did this happen?
> > > >
> > > >I recently put on a new exhaust system (less then a month ago),
> and I
> >am
> > > >fairly sure I tighten everything down good.  Just to be sure, I
> checked
> > > >all the exhaust bolts and there were a few that were looser
> then I
> >liked
> > > >(so I tightened them up).
> > > >
> > > >What do you think?  Was I careless, or was the heating and
> cooling
> >cycle
> > > >on a new exhaust system enough to loosen the bolts?  Or was it
> >something
> > > >else?
> > > >
> > > >Blake
> > >
> > >
> > >
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