Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:01:29 -0800
Reply-To: John Dagastino <themisanthropicmeanie@YAHOO.COM>
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From: John Dagastino <themisanthropicmeanie@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Shape of the world - No Direct content to Listg Groups
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Vanagon list is not place for this.
besides, some of us have diff'rent beleifs.
not everyone is a Chr*stian. please keep that in mind,
before you post things like this.
(i'm an atheist myself, and i don't find this to be
anything more than amusing, but some might be offended
by it.)
thank you.
--- Ray Hunnam <hunnam@PNC.COM.AU> wrote:
> I thought I would share this with all of you. My
> eldest daughter sent it to
> me. She is no way a religious person but I then to
> that at least she is
> thinking.
>
> Ray Hunnam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lisa Hunnam" <hunnam.lisa@shg.com.au>
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> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:17 AM
> Subject: Shape of the world
>
>
> >
> >
> > > > This may help explain why the World is in the
> state that it is...
> > > > Ray.
> > > >
> > > > Reportedly a True Story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Billy Graham's daughter, Anne, was being
> interviewed on the Early Show
> > > about
> > > > recent events in America, and Jane Clayson
> asked her "How could God
> let
> > > > something like this happen?"
> > > >
> > > > Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and
> insightful response.
> > > > She said, "I believe that God is deeply
> saddened by this, just as we
> > are,
> > > > but for years we've been telling God to get
> out of our schools, to get
> > out
> > > > of our government and to get out of our lives.
> And being the gentleman
> > > that
> > > > He is, I believe that He has calmly backed
> out. How can we expect God
> > to
> > > > give us His blessing and His protection if we
> demand that He leave us
> > > > alone?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know there have been a lot of emails going
> around in regards to
> > 9/11/01,
> > > > but this really makes you think. If you don't
> have time, at least skim
> > > > through it, but the bottom line is something
> to think about ... In
> > light
> > > of
> > > > recent events...terrorist's attack, school
> shootings, etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Let's see, I think it started when Madeline
> Murray O'Hare (she was
> > > murdered,
> > > > her body was found recently) complained she
> didn't want any prayer in
> > our
> > > > schools, and we said OK.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then, someone said you better not read the
> Bible in school... the
> Bible
> > > that
> > > > says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not
> steal, and love your
> neighbour
> > as
> > > > yourself.
> > > >
> > > > And we said, OK.
> > > >
> > > > Then, Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't
> spank our children when
> they
> > > > misbehave because their little personalities
> would be warped and we
> > might
> > > > damage their self-esteem. (Dr. Spock's son
> committed suicide).
> > > >
> > > > And we said, an expert should know what he's
> talking about so we said
> > OK.
> > > >
> > > > Then, someone said teachers and principals
> better not discipline our
> > > > children when they misbehave. And the school
> administrators said no
> > > faculty
> > > > member in this school better touch a student
> when they misbehave
> > because
> > > we
> > > > don't want any bad publicity, and we surely
> don't want to be sued
> > (There's
> > > > big difference between disciplining and
> touching, beating, smacking,
> > > > humiliating, kicking, etc.) And we said, OK.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then someone said, let's let our daughters
> have abortions if they
> want,
> > > and
> > > > they won't even have to tell their parents.
> And we said, OK.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then some wise school board member said, since
> boys will be boys and
> > > they're
> > > > going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all
> the condoms they want,
> > so
> > > > they can have all the fun they desire, and we
> won't have to tell their
> > > > parents they got them at school. And we said,
> OK.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then some of our top elected officials said it
> doesn't matter what we
> > do
> > > in
> > > > private as long as we do our jobs. And
> agreeing with them, we said it
> > > > doesn't matter to me what anyone, including
> the President, does in
> > private
> > > > as long as I have a job and the economy is
> good.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And then someone said let's print magazines
> with pictures of nude
> women
> > > and
> > > > call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation
> for the beauty of the
> > female
> > > > body.
> > > >
> > > > And we said, OK.
> > > >
> > > > And then someone else took that appreciation
> one-step further and
> > > published
> > > > pictures of nude children and then stepped
> further still by making
> them
> > > > available on the Internet.
> > > >
> > > > And we said OK; they're entitled to their free
> speech.
> > > >
> > > > And then the entertainment industry said;
> let's make TV shows and
> > movies
> > > > that promote profanity, violence, and illicit
> sex. And let's record
> > music
> > > > that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide,
> and satanic themes.
> > > >
> > > > And we said its just entertainment, it has no
> adverse effect, and
> > nobody
> > > > takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
> > > >
> > > > Now we're asking ourselves why our children
> have no conscience, why
> > they
>
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