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Date:         Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:36:30 -0900
Reply-To:     Mike Moery <mike.moery@ACSALASKA.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mike Moery <mike.moery@ACSALASKA.NET>
Subject:      Re: Operating temp question/Boston Bob's solution?
In-Reply-To:  <019e01c18c08$1f4495a0$6601a8c0@vista1.sdca.home.com>
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There is an ideal temperature range for any engine to operate within, and the thermostat is designed to get the engine up to that point as quickly as possible, and then keep in from climbing much higher. If the thermostat is fully open, and the temp continues to rise, then the low speed on the radiator fan is triggered. If temperature equilibrium is (engine btu output versus cooling system heat rejection) is still not achieved, the fan is triggered to run at high speed. The idea that a cooler running engine is desirable is correct only as long as you don't drop below the engine thermostat's setpoint. To run it much below this can cause condensation in the oil, fuel mix problems, etc.

    -Mike Moery Anchorage, AK   ---------------         ||E[__] [__]|[_]\         | =======| -   ||   * * * *( o )-------( o )= 'Ol Bessie '82TD Westy

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of developtrust Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:18 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Operating temp question/Boston Bob's solution?

You say that running cold "causes greater ring wear and a host of other problems."

If this is indeed the case then this would be a good reason to NOT use the Red Line Water Wetter product to lower temperature. Anyone with Red Line's Water Wetter experience have any suggestions to the contrary? Manufacturer claims that the product can be used to provide rust and corrosion protection in plain water for racing engines. So would it provide similar protection in our systems with coolant?

The product label says it reduces temperature with a 50/50 coolant mix by 8 degrees. Would running only 8 degrees lower cause the engine to run rich? And thus wash down the cylinder walls (of oil) causing greater ring wear and a host of other problems?

One earlier reply to my query was that the engine (well maintained) runs perfectly well without "red line's water wetter" even while crossing the desert using the AC and that adding Water Wetter is not necessary.

I always thought running cooler was a good thing, but then these VW systems are so new to me that I just am not convinced of anything yet.

Any informed advice anyone?

William Polowniak Vanagon site http://members.home.net/holisticdream/vanagon1989.htm

> Kevin; > As I understand it; running at below proper operating temperature > causes the engine to run rich. This in turn washes down the cylinder > walls(of oil) causing greater ring wear and a host of other problems. > On the flip side this may be a solution for Boston Bob's lean > running problem. Increase/add resistance to the TEMPII sensor, fooling > the ECU to run richer!? > > Good Luck and Drive Safely > Ken Lewis > 86 Crewcab,60 356 > http://Neksiwel.20m.com/ > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:33:45 -0500 Kevin Kusmider > <harvest@FREDERICKMD.COM> writes: > > Happy Holidays everyone, > > > My '90 multivan runs cold.....Is there a problem that can arise from not > running hot > > enough? > > I am getting ready to leave on a long trip and wanted to make sure. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Kevin > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.


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