Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:31:56 -0600
Reply-To: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Parting out vs. Repairing an '85 Westy
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I've seen FREE 1.9 and 2.1 Waser boxer engines offered by list members to
other list members and I'd wait for a near free deal and just quit my
pity party. There are a lot of Ticco conversions that are going on
because Tiico could not possibly be earning a living from list members.
List members have some kind of aversion to paying $200.00 in freight to
get a $500.00 engine across the country but end up paying it anyway when
they do a rebuild exchange.
I restore 80-83 Air Cooled Westfalias and I never blink an eye as the
crusher takes down another Vanagon shell that I've stripped out.
There are ten times as many WaserBoxer Vanagons in Texas wrecking yards
than air cooled vans fro 66-83. The engine dies so does the whole car
when the engine is $3300.00 and we can buy running 85-91 Vanagons down
here for $1000.00 or less, $5000.00 for a Nice Water Westy.
They're hard to find unless you got to the junkyards and anyone of the
WaserBoxers I find in the newspapers can be bought cheap because they
all have *Buyer Beware* stamped right on the sellers forehead cause
they're all hiding some soon to be fatal problem with the engine.
Stan Wilder
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:56:34 -0500 "Stephen Steele"
<steeles@horizonview.net> writes:
> Stan Wilder wrote in Re:Screwed in a Westy Deal:
> > Don't try to salvage a bad deal.............. just wreck out the
> vehicle
> > and go get a good one.
> > I'd think you had at least $3000.00 in salvage value. When I part
> out an
> > 80-83 Air Cooled I finalize out at about $1500.00 and still have
> lots of
> > spare parts left.
>
> Wow! I would take a bad engine in a great, clean Westy any day, over
> the
> opposite. Wrecking and parting out an otherwise good vehicle may be
> the most
> profitable course... I can't imagine taking that course for a mere
> $500
> profit.
>
> If we were into these vans for the money, how many of us could
> wreck and
> part before the market would be saturated and we would see far fewer
> of our
> vans on the road.
>
> I don't pretend to know Brad's financial position, but I should
> think he
> would be able to cut his losses by biting the bullet and putting a
> reliable
> 1.9 back in the '85 and use it as he intended. After all, with the
> initial
> $2500 and the cost of a rebuilt or reliable junkyard WBX he would
> still be
> in the ballpark of the going market rate for a clean, good looking,
> good
> running '85 Westy... check out the pricing at WestFalia Owner's
> Website
> classifieds...
>
> > http://www.westfalia.org/
>
> Of the eight 1985 listings that I saw...
> $10,500, $14,000 (both Canadian$),
> $6,500 and $8,500 (both California)
> $6,800 and $2,600 with a bad engine (both Colorado)
> $3,500 with a"coolant issue" and a "bad lifter" (IL)
> and finally
> $5,800 (NC)
>
> IMHO...
> Going out to get "a good one" will cost him at least as much as the
> original
> purchase price and the cost to R/R his current 1.9. An I-4
> conversion would
> put him t the upper end of the 1985 price range.
>
> --
> Stephen Steele*
> Chillicothe OH
> '91 Caravelle "Hans"
> '84 Westfalia "Fritz"
> '81 Diesel Rabbit "Ol' Yeller" by PO
> '82 Diesel Jetta "Donormobile" for...
> '82 Caddy VW P.U. ( White with a nice "mossy" tone from the
> years' of sitting waiting to be discovered by a VW
> addict like me).
> '90 Jetta GL 16 yo Sons' "together" car
> '74 MGB My first car...yep, I've kept it since '74
> '93 Chevy S-10 I hate it ... soon to be "Gone"
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>
>
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