Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:41:13 -0500
Reply-To: Data Services <dataservices@MEDIAONE.NET>
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From: Data Services <dataservices@MEDIAONE.NET>
Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions
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I noticed all the parts on my Tiico conversion were the familiar 9 digit VW
code. If you can get the numbers, you can get the parts. I don't believe
any of them are now obsolete.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Stann" <ChrisS@INFORMS.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions
> I am not very familiar with the laws concerning internatinal car-parts
> sales, but this is my thought:
>
> The needed parts must have a part number that exists in the South African
VW
> part books, therefore the parts are available, right?
>
> I know it's not that simple, but couldn't you simply order the parts from
a
> SA VW dealer?
>
> Chris.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of selten2
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 4:36 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions
>
>
> I have talked to Peter about the availability of just the
> components you mentioned and he says that he is not able to convince his
> suppliers to sell the needed parts piece meal. If the Intake, motor mounts
> and oil pan were available , there would be a lot more conversions. Even
the
> ECU and harness should be available. Anyone who works on modern Audi's and
> VWs would have no problem with the Motronic managment system.
Unfortunately
> unless you buy a kit you are not going to see these pieces. Anyone out
there
> have alternate connections in SA?
> Tom Czerniak
> 1987 Westy w/tiico
> 181200 on Van
> 9200 on new engine
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kitzmann" <kitzmann@EXIS.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions
>
>
> > >I have seen a number of members postings and vendors sites that talk
> about
> > the I4 conversion. The only one that I have yet seen that doesn't have
> the
> > engine protruding into the van or modification of the deck lid is the
> > tiico. Why? What is different about their conversion than other
> companies
> > / homebrew conversions?
> > >--
> >
> > There are two differences between the ones that protrude and ones that
> > don't. Using say a 1.8L VW it will not protrude if using a diesel
> > bellhousing or something equivalent that mounts the engine at something
> > like 54 degrees. Using this same engine mounted at the 15 degrees that
it
> > was mounted in a Golf or Jetta and you protrude. The other major
> > difference is the confiquration of the intake and exhaust manifolds.
This
> > is why the 2.0L crossflow as used in A3 and A4 Jettas protrude because
> even
> > at 54 degrees mounting angle the intake manifold sticks up out of the
> > engine bay. Tiico uses a 2.0L block that has the intake and exhaust on
> the
> > same side, just like the 1.8L engine in the A2 Golf/Jetta. The engine
is
> > mounted at the 54 degree point and so the engine doesn't protrude. One
> > additional benefit of the Tiico is that the intake manifold was
> > specifically made for the application and doesn't hit the wall of the
> > engine bay. This of course is the same as those used on the SA
Vanagons,
> > so I don't see why someone couldn't start importing these things for us.
> > If you could get the manifolds and a diesel bellhousing or adapter plate
> > you could pretty inexpensively install a 1.8L VW or 2.0 Audi bubble
block
> > without much difficulty at all.
> > Hope that clears somethings up,
> > Dave K.
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