Date:         Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:44:11 -0800
Reply-To:     Mark Keller <kelphoto@ISLANDNET.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mark Keller <kelphoto@ISLANDNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions
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A while back I was researching engine conversions and read on the Tii co
site engine spec listed more horsepower and torque, than the same engine
 on the SA VW site specs. I thought perhaps that the Tii Co engine was
chipped and began emailing various chip vendors. Their comments
surprised me.  I didn't share them at the time with the list as not to
berate the TII co conversion, but I've wondered what level of truth
there was to the statements. I've listed them below and would like to
hear feedback if possible.

Various replies were that the Bosch Mototronic 9 was not a US market
system and incompatible with their chip.  Another conversation with
tiico convertor was that the Mototronic 9 has little if no common items
with Bosch US market injection systems.  I surmised at least that
product knowledge of the Mototronic 9 may be more dicey that the Name
Bosch Injection indicates.  I also heard that Motortronic 9 was more of
an Eastern Europe application.

  I know these are largely undocumented but, perhaps more light can be
shed on this Bosch fuel management system, and other US Market
applications of it and or its component interchange ability, i.e. can a
used ECU's or what sensors can be found. Does VW or other OEM outlet
stock parts for the system, other than the Tiico distributor?

sincerely,

Mark Keller
91 Carat



for

 Anyone who works on modern Audi's and
VWs would have no problem with the Mototronic management system. Unfortunately
unless you buy a kit you are not going to see these pieces. Anyone out there
have alternate connections in SA?
Tom Czerniak
1987 Westy w/tiico
181200 on Van
9200 on new engine

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Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions