Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:36:06 -0600
Reply-To: selten2 <selten2@ATTBI.COM>
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From: selten2 <selten2@ATTBI.COM>
Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions
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I have talked to Peter about the availability of just the
components you mentioned and he says that he is not able to convince his
suppliers to sell the needed parts piece meal. If the Intake, motor mounts
and oil pan were available , there would be a lot more conversions. Even the
ECU and harness should be available. Anyone who works on modern Audi's and
VWs would have no problem with the Motronic managment system. Unfortunately
unless you buy a kit you are not going to see these pieces. Anyone out there
have alternate connections in SA?
Tom Czerniak
1987 Westy w/tiico
181200 on Van
9200 on new engine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kitzmann" <kitzmann@EXIS.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: tiico conversion vs. other I4 conversions
> >I have seen a number of members postings and vendors sites that talk
about
> the I4 conversion. The only one that I have yet seen that doesn't have
the
> engine protruding into the van or modification of the deck lid is the
> tiico. Why? What is different about their conversion than other
companies
> / homebrew conversions?
> >--
>
> There are two differences between the ones that protrude and ones that
> don't. Using say a 1.8L VW it will not protrude if using a diesel
> bellhousing or something equivalent that mounts the engine at something
> like 54 degrees. Using this same engine mounted at the 15 degrees that it
> was mounted in a Golf or Jetta and you protrude. The other major
> difference is the confiquration of the intake and exhaust manifolds. This
> is why the 2.0L crossflow as used in A3 and A4 Jettas protrude because
even
> at 54 degrees mounting angle the intake manifold sticks up out of the
> engine bay. Tiico uses a 2.0L block that has the intake and exhaust on
the
> same side, just like the 1.8L engine in the A2 Golf/Jetta. The engine is
> mounted at the 54 degree point and so the engine doesn't protrude. One
> additional benefit of the Tiico is that the intake manifold was
> specifically made for the application and doesn't hit the wall of the
> engine bay. This of course is the same as those used on the SA Vanagons,
> so I don't see why someone couldn't start importing these things for us.
> If you could get the manifolds and a diesel bellhousing or adapter plate
> you could pretty inexpensively install a 1.8L VW or 2.0 Audi bubble block
> without much difficulty at all.
> Hope that clears somethings up,
> Dave K.
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