Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:16:11 -0700
Reply-To: joseph Trussell <joetruss@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: joseph Trussell <joetruss@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Simple starting problem?
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I was having a similar problem w/ my 1.9...It would start, then if I didn't
give it a ton of gas right after I started it, it would stall and I'd have
to let it sit for about 10 minutes before it would start up again. I tuned
it up and change my Temp II sensor and the problem was gone.
Joe T.
'85 GL 'bertha'
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From: John Baker <abusguy2@SPRINGMAIL.COM>
Reply-To: abusguy2@SPRINGMAIL.COM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Simple starting problem?
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:55:01 -0500
Les,
I am currently having the EXACT same problem with my 1.9 wbx. Last week the
consensus of the list thought I probably have a bad Temp II sensor. Here is
my limited understanding of the function: This is a sensor found in the
thrmostat housing that "tells" the ECU when the engine is warm or cold. If
it reads cold, it increases fuel into the injectors at start up because a
cold engine needs more gas to start, and if it is warm it does not send as
much fuel to the injectors. If the sensor is bad and reads "Cold engine"
when the engine is actually warm, it will "send" too much fuel to the
injectors at start up, thus your flooding problem. Those of you who know
more about this PLEASE correct me if I am wrong, this is what I have
gathered mostly from reading the archives.
Anyway, I have discovered a way to help with those warm starts until I can
get around to replacing that sensor. When your engine is warm, turn the key
"on" (injectors injecting) but don't engage the starter, and wait about 15
seconds in this position before turning the motor over. After this time, I
turn and give one little push on the accelator pedal as I engage the starter
and it generally fires right up!
I hope I am mostly correct in my description and that this little trick
helps you cope until you get your problem fixed.
Peace, John Baker
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:34:34 -0800 Les Shiaman <lamusicamellama@JUNO.COM>
wrote:
Listees -
Happy 2002! I have a question about my 1.9l wbx. It always starts cold,
but after driving a few miles and warming up and stopping and say eating
lunch I'll go out and it often takes a LONG time to fire up. Starter is
strong, battery too. I get the feeling there is some flooding happening
because I smell unburnt fuel after several turnovers. Sometimes I press
the gas pedal other times no, and sometimes I'll get her started after
several pumps on the gas..just don't see that pattern yet. If I wait 10,
20 minutes she'll fire up. Often times after a drive when I arrive home
for curiosity I try to fire up after parking and cutting the engine.
Most of the time it won't fire up again. It had new plugs, wires and cap
a year ago (5k miles ago). Sometimes idle is a little high, but usually
drops after a time. I don't believe timing is an issue. I live in a
temperate coastal climate so I don't believe weather is an issue. Well,
that's about the extent of it. Thanks for any advice.
Les
'84 Westy
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