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Date:         Thu, 31 Jan 2002 00:16:00 EST
Reply-To:     FrankGRUN@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Frank Grunthaner <FrankGRUN@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: gas can
Comments: To: harald_nancy@EMAIL.MSN.COM
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In a message dated 1/30/02 5:39:06 PM, harald_nancy@EMAIL.MSN.COM writes:

<< About the round gas can that can be stored inside the spare tire:

No big loss. They're too dangerous for the Vanagon anyway.

The heat from the radiator heats up the gasoline in the can,

and when you open the can, the gas squirts in your face and

everywhere.

Can be very dangerous, if one doesn't think about it.

Seen it happen to a friend who has one for his Vanagon. >>

Hmmm,

To each his own! I've logged a few years with the Mercedes version. Used it three times so far. Each time running out of gas after a long highway stretch. Two of these were desolate night runs and one was in the middle of the hot afternoon, central valley, summer. The cap opening mechanism goes into a vapor release mode before it can be fully released and the transfer nozzle affixed. The can has a flat on its base to be set on during this operation to orient the fill spout correctly. If the spout is correctly oriented there is no way to eject hot liquid gasoline unless the gas can has been overfilled beyond its maximum fill level. As designed, the tank has an air gap for gasoline expansion of more than 0.45 liters. For a 7 L fill to expand this much, there must be a temperature change of more than 120 degrees Fahrenheit. If the can was filled at 20 F, the external can temperature must then be 140 F, which would be very difficult for the average person to handle. If filled in Southern California, it would be difficult to fill at less than 40 F, giving a 160 F can. Very hot to the touch.

In any case, I can only anecdotally report that in my field trials, the can was at most warm. Never approached the temperature of the deck chair metal I had in the luggage rack exposed to direct sun in the middle of the day. Also never had the experience of liquid gasoline baths. Did hear the hiss of a pressurized cylinder being vented. Oh, yeah, the metal cap on the Mercedes unit has a lip all around the gasket surface to deflect material away from a perpendicular spray, that is, liquid overspray is directed along the inlet spout.

Oh well, to each his own. But I like it.

Frank Grunthaner


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