Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:53:55 -0500
Reply-To: Bradley Flubacher <flub@ADELPHIA.NET>
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From: Bradley Flubacher <flub@ADELPHIA.NET>
Subject: Re: low-voltage lighting
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Sounds like interesting lighting. What could one possibly need a gallon
halogen for? :)
Bradley Flubacher
State College, PA
'81 diesel rabbit
'82 diesel westy
'82 diesel van
'84 GL wasserboxer
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Mike Moery
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:20 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: low-voltage lighting
That's nuthin'... you should see the Gallon halogens I got here... : )
-Mike Moery
From Historic, walkable Anchorage, AK
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-----Original Message-----
From: mike miller [mailto:mwmiller@cwnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:37 AM
To: Mike Moery; vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
Subject: Re: low-voltage lighting
Boy! That's a big bulb. Never seen a Quarts halogen, wonder what a
gallon
one would look like?
Mike
Whose spell checker is dumber than he is.
> From: Mike Moery <mike.moery@ACSALASKA.NET>
> Reply-To: Mike Moery <mike.moery@ACSALASKA.NET>
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:11:11 -0900
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: low-voltage lighting
>
> AC or DC isn't important with a simple resistance load, like an
> incandescent light bulb (that includes quarts halogen). If there's a
> transformer involved, then it's entirely different though
> .
> -Mike Moery
> Anchorage, AK
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On
Behalf
> Of Chris Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:40 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: low-voltage lighting
>
> One thing I forgot, be sure the lamps are really 12V DC and not 12V
> AC. You could be in for a melt down if you get that backwards! There
> are
> also some inexpensive 12v florescent fixtures that provide much more
> light
> letting your battery last much longer, days instead of hours. Just do
> your
> math and remember that the average starter battery will let you draw
40
> amp/hours before the bus won't start. 8 amps for 5 hours = 40
> amp/hours. this assumes that the battery is in top condition, the
> weather
> is warm, and the engine fires-up right away. A second battery is
> recommended for running that much lighting.
>
> Chris Smith
>
>
> At 09:14 PM 2/13/02 -0500, Bradley Flubacher wrote:
>> Precisely the type of undercabinet lighting I was referring to. I
> wasn't
>> sure of the wattage, however. I wonder if lower wattage bulbs can be
> put
>> into the fixtures if needed.
>>
>> Thanks for your input! This will probably be much more
cost-effective
> than
>> RV style lighting- maybe brighter and more attractive too.
>>
>>
>> Bradley Flubacher
>> State College, PA
>> '81 diesel rabbit
>> '82 diesel westy
>> '82 diesel van
>> '84 GL wasserboxer
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On
Behalf
>> Of Chris Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:36 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: low-voltage lighting
>>
>>
>> At 12:42 PM 2/13/02 -0500, Bradley Flubacher wrote:
>>> I've been considering going out to my local home improvement store
to
> buy
>>> some under-counter low voltage lighting. As you probably know,
> they're 12v
>>> lights. I thought it might be a nice addition to my poorly lit
> westy. I'm
>>> not sure how many amps each light draws, but if I can get them on a
> 10-15
>>> amp circuit, would there be any reason NOT to use this kind of
> lighting?
>>
>> To find out the draw of each lamp simply divide the wattage by
>> 12(volts). this will give you the amperage that they draw when
>> running. Remember that incandescent lamps draw more when being
turned
>> on. 15 amps of lamps will pop a 15 amp fuse if they all get turned
on
> at
>> the same time. Most of the lamps you'll find are probably 20 watt
> fixtures.
>>
>> 20(W) divided by 12(v) = ~1.67(A)
>>
>> This should add a nice touch to the interior but will drain a battery
> if
>> left on too long.
>>
>> The set I found was a pack of 5 undercabinet 20W halogen lamps.
total
> draw
>> is just over 8 amps, or about 5 hours on a standard small car
battery.
> The
>> TURD is using about 5 times as much battery storage so I can get a
> couple
>> of nights on the lights between charges.
>>
>> Your results may vary, please do not try this at home, if the is not
> what
>> you expected, please alter your expectations.
>>
>> Unemployed Bum
>
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