Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:40:40 -0800
Reply-To: Walter Evens <wrevens@MYEXCEL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Walter Evens <wrevens@MYEXCEL.COM>
Subject: Re: '91Westy Coolant loss
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I just picked my brand new Bentley Manual up from the VW shop. Copyright
1991. It reads 10cm (4").
While we're on the subject of Manuals. I was originally going to buy a
Chilton's at Amazon for $67.95. I've been a "shade tree" mechanic all my
life as I had been either too poor or too stingy to pay someone else to work
on my vehicles. I trust Chilton and have used them for many years. I have
even re-built engines using them. I also have a Haynes manual that came
with my truck. I found it to be vague and ambiguous at best. I know there
was a post in the past couple of days by someone who said they found one for
around $20.00 that he seemed pretty happy with.
When I ordered the Bentley I was skeptical of anything that said "factory
repair manual". I figured it was written in "Certified Trained Mechanic"
lingo. I was assured by the guy at the shop that it was the one for me,
even after I asked him if it was written in "shade tree" mechanic language.
The "technical" info is very thorough. However, the "how to info" is not as
simple as I would have liked or in a format I'm used to. Has anyone had any
experience with the Chilton manual? Is it as easy to understand and use as
most of their stuff sold to the general public?
Unfortunately these things have to be ordered and there usually aren't any
on the shelf for you to look through to see which one you like best. I will
probably keep the Bentley due to the fact that special orders are generally
not returnable.
Thanks,
Walter Evens
Hesperia, CA, USA
2- '85 GLs
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben McCafferty" <ben@KBMC.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: '91Westy Coolant loss
> Or you can drive up my driveway, with a 10" pine tree root under it....
> bmc :)
> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."
>
>
> > From: "developtrust" <developtrust@home.com>
> > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:55:43 -0800
> > To: "Ben McCafferty" <ben@kbmc.net>, <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Subject: Re: Re: '91Westy Coolant loss
> >
> > So if you drive up on ramps (about 9 to 10 inches high) that should do
it,
> > right? Or another list member's clever idea was to drive up a hill and
do it
> > there.
> >
> > William Polowniak
> > 1989 Vanagon GL
> > 1988 Mercedes 300 SE
> >
> >
> >> One of must have a typo, then. Page 19.16, just below fig. 5, "--raise
> >> vehicle approx. 10cm (4 in.) at front under cross-member with floor
jack
> > and
> >> wooden support or equivalent"
> >>
> >> What would be the benefit of going higher? Is there another point in
the
> >> system that's higher than the top of the radiator? Hmmmm....
> >>
> >> bmc :)
> >> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> >>> Reply-To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> >>> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:05:49 -0700
> >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >>> Subject: Re: '91Westy Coolant loss
> >>>
> >>> That's straight our of my Bentley. Matter of fact, the first time I
> > bled
> >>> the system, I misread it as 40". That was a bitch of a job!
> >>>
> >>> Karl
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Ben McCafferty" <ben@KBMC.NET>
> >>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:58 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: '91Westy Coolant loss
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Karl, was that in a tech bulletin or something? My Bentley say 10
cm,
> > or
> >>>> about 4"?
> >>>> tx,
> >>>> bmc :)
> >>>> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> >>>>> Reply-To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:47:51 -0700
> >>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: '91Westy Coolant loss
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @ 4", you may not have fully bled the heater boxes. VW specifies
> > 40cm,
> >>> or
> >>>>> about 16".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Karl Wolz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Walter Evens" <wrevens@MYEXCEL.COM>
> >>>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:48 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: '91Westy Coolant loss
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I am new to the list so Greetings to all. It had been some years
> > since
> >>> I
> >>>>>> changed hoses on a Vanagon and I forgot to "bleed" the system when
I
> >>>>>> recently removed the alternator bracket to fix a stripped stud. I
> > had
> >>> to
> >>>>>> empty the system in order to remove the water pipe that goes across
> > the
> >>>>>> engine in front of the bracket. While driving it afterwards it
> > heated
> >>> up
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>> little and for some odd reason corrected or bled itself as I
haven't
> >>> had a
> >>>>>> temperature problem since. Lucky me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't know about anyone else's van but there is no mistaking when
> > my
> >>>>>> cooling fan is on. When I've been driving it and I shut the engine
> > off
> >>> it
> >>>>>> runs a while afterwards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On a funny note, the last time I bled the system, some "expert"
told
> > me
> >>> I
> >>>>>> had to jack the front of the van 3 FEET OFF THE GROUND! I used a
> > Handy
> >>>>> Man
> >>>>>> "High Lift" jack that time. I have found out since that 4 inches
will
> >>> do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Walter Evens
> >>>>>> Hesperia, CA
> >>>>>> 85 GL (late 84)
> >>>>>> 85 GL (early 85)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Bob Stevens" <mtbiker62@HOTMAIL.COM>
> >>>>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:37 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: '91Westy Coolant loss
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks Ken and Ed. I didn't do anything with the radiator when I
> >>> changed
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> thermostat. This is the first time I've had any indications of
> > trouble
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>>> the front end. NOtice that I don't think the cooling fan comes on
> > so,
> >>> of
> >>>>>>> course, it heats up more when driving up hill or when stopped. I
> > don't
> >>>>>> hear
> >>>>>>> the fan but it may be operating. I'll just do first things first
and
> >>>>> check
> >>>>>>> where the leak is coming from this a.m. and go from there.
> >>>>>>> Bob Stevens
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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