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Date:         Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:34:29 -0600
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
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From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: aircraft hose
Comments: To: TSmola@tribune.com
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I'll check it out. I'm still in testing and prove it mode right now. I'll make a 200 mile run this weekend and see how the whole McGilla works out.

Stan

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:08:00 -0600 "Smola, Tony" <TSmola@tribune.com> writes: > Stan, sounds very cool. > I would reccomend some aircraft hose to make it really nice....not > too > expensive either > Here's the link.....I used this when I added a cooler to one of my > very fast > squarebacks. > http://www.aeroquip.com/pages/prodinfo.html > > and the place that sells the socketless hose and fittings is: > http://www.nelsondunn.com/ > > you all will appreciate this stuff.......works great! > > Malibu Tony 85' Westy 1.9L 6 degrees BTDC > 78 911SC Targa > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:12:09 -0600 > From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM> > Subject: Re: '80 Westfalia-- best way to drive over passes > > Since we're back onto oil coolers, I'll finish up on a link I > started > last week. > Subject: Installing Mazda RX7 oil cooler. > The cooler has been mounted below the Westy next to the LP fuel > tank, it > hangs down to just above the height of the LP tank skid plate. > The cooler feed is from a sandwich plate between the filter and the > filter mounting. > After running the vehicle on several 80 mile round trips with 70-75 > degree weather I convinced that the RX7 147 degree internal > thermostat is > working correctly. > The inlet line is hot enough that you can touch it only for a > second, but > at least that long. > The return line is so cool as to be deceptive (makes you wonder if > the > oil is really that cool). > The RX7 cooler is about five feet from the sandwich plate and I > haven't > noticed any drop in oil pressure at idle of 800 rpm or at crusing > rpm of > 3300. > The idiot light still goes out immediately and the gauge still > bounces up > to 5 bar + on cold startups. > The oil capacity has increased by almost a full quart in filling > both the > 1/2" lines and the 5x2x24" seven plate cooler. > The main test of this cooler will be on a 120 mile trip in 100 > degree > temperature that we get for a bout thirty consecutive days each > Summer > here in Texas. (alternate test 25 mph headwinds on a 75 degree day) > Although I trust the RX7 cooler I'm somewhat puzzled by the > thermostat, > bypass and overall function. > It appears that only three of the seven plates are active or > possibly the > oil has cooled in this three plate process enough that I just can't > feel > by touch that the additional plates are also removing heat. The > three > plates are quite hot near the inlet and half way down the 24" length > then > the get very cool just like the other four plates. There are four > inlet > ports in the path of the thermostat plunger and possibly I just > haven't > gotten enough heat developed to drop the plunger into that feed > position. > I've fed kerosine through the cooler (with thermostat removed) > before I > installed the cooler and it has tremendous flow through all paths of > the > cooler. > I checked out the RX7 Hayes manual and about all the info it offered > was > 147 degree, boil the thermostat, a little plunger pops out > approximately > 1/8" if its working correctly. Otherwise its just a drop in plunger > (fairly sophisticated) with copper main body, brass sealing surfaces > and > a spring to keep it seated until the heat relieves the spring > tension and > causes the little plunger to actuate partially or fully. > I used the term *somewhat puzzled*, change that to totalled > baffled. > I just keep waiting for the oil temp gauge to reach that magic 100 > Celsius that I'm accustomed to seeing and it hasn't gotten there > since I > installed this cooler. (I might have to go to a water temp sender > and > gauge to get more accurate readings) > The CHT seems to have dropped at times under heavy load but I can't > relate it in anyway to the operation of the oil cooler. (it never > got > past about 350-370 before in hard running on 120 mile periods). > I haven't paid much attention to it after installing the cooler but > it > used to take about 30 minutes to get 20 degree reduction in oil > temp > while running and just reducing speed/load. It will be interesting > to see > if that oil temp gauge drops back any faster with the cooler in > operation. > I went to a lot of trouble to fabricate a sheet metal cover and > secure a > VW fan with good air flow volume but it apperas that I probably > won't > need it as long as I keep moving. (fan not installed) > For any of you with a sprit of adventure, the RX7 coolers are > abundant on > *-bay and sell for various prices from 20-180$ depending on the > dope > desperate for one. I paid $20.00 for mine at a local bone yard (you > need > the hoses too). The sandwich plate is available from all list > vendors and > the barb fittings are at your friendly Ace Hardware. > Any for those who are fearful of new things, your oil filter mount > has a > bypass that will protect your engine if for some reason the cooler > thermostat locked and the sandwich plate has a similar bypass. The > ultimate danger is blowing a hose but that seldom if ever happens if > you > use high temp hose rated at 200+ psi. > I would truly love to have an engine on a test stand with a troque > converter load devise to test the total of all of the functions and > at > what pressure and temperatures they activate. > Jake Rabey recently full throttled a Type IV engine on a test stand > and > managed to explode it just like he wanted. I think he has a video on > his > web site or at least a report. > > Stan Wilder > 83 Air Cooled Westfalia > > ------------ Had to snip here, this thing has become a book > ------------------------ > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.


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